Buying Used Equipment on the Internet


Hello all, 

Had a question for the more experienced hi-fi enthusiasts here. I'm new to this hobby and currently still trying out new gear to see what I like. I was looking into trying out the Parasound Halo Hint 6 amplifier and found a used one through AudioMart. 

My question is: what advice would people have for buying used equipment online? The pricing is attractive but there's also no option for returns once the transaction goes through. What's to stop someone from offloading a lemon on to an unsuspecting buyer?

 

Thanks!

aamiransari

The question you ask is a good one. 

You wrote, "I'm new to this hobby and currently still trying out new gear to see what I like". Later you mentioned you are looking at a used audio piece. I assume you mean "new... to you" if you are buying used. If not, buy a new Parasound from an authorized dealer to negate risks.

Half of the gear I own is "new", and the other half was bought "used". The advice offered to you so far is good advice. I will add this. Consider the reason why the seller is letting a piece go... for sale. Some are updating their gear. Great reason to sell. Some are trying something else, another good reason or something is wrong with the gear they are selling, some are buying at estate sales, goodwill, or from ebay to RESELL. That's not a good reason to sell (or rather to buy). If the seller looks legit, answers questions without problems, has a good reason to sell, agrees with all terms, even if it involves returning the item and I feel I can reduce my risks in buying.... that's what i am looking for.

I sell very little HiFi equipment, but do have a collectors head (my term for being a little obsessional with hoarding 🤣)

Some of my buying methods are only completed if my requests are agreed to be honoured. Others, especially Import Purchases from Japan are Punts, and the chosen buying price is really the only means to protect ones interests. 

Through my HiFi Club and my other enthusiasm being Photography.

I have learned of experiences encountered by others selling Audio Devices and Camera Equipment.

I used all the info given to me, as a preparation to create a platform for my selling on redundant items from my Camera Equipment recently.

I had to wait a little longer than typical in relation to finding a buyer, as my asking prices have been very competitive.

Due to my Payment Request, I had to endure a few who claimed to really know their stuff, (sending extracts to show contravention) and were quite sure they could 'bully' the sale into their favour. I looked on these types as very organised scammers.

I sold my equipment as a Bank Transfer Payment Method, with the option to Pick Up directly from myself. I have not had any difficulties with any Vendor who could see the value in the quality of the item and its well documented usage history, a few items were paid for in advance and then passed on to the Buyer at an agreed place, to fit in with my weekly movements required by my work.

The above Posts in this thread as well as my own, is only a snap shot of experiences being had by Vendors/Buyers using the Web to access Sellers/Buyers.

There are numerous stories where loss is the result, I know of a few encountered by friends and family. Keep this in the foresight when in any communication.

Note: Once one unwanted outcome to a sale is known, a Google Search will soon show up a quantity of reports where similarities are to be seen.

With Ebay the 30 Day Protection is more than enough to receive goods and use them for something one would not want to use their own equipment for, or would not want to purchase the needed item, which is only intended for a temporary usage. Ebay successfully supplies goods for Holiday Periods, to be returned once having been left on a Beach for ?? Days throughout a Holiday period. 

Once the item has served its purpose as a free hire period back it comes to the Vendor with a BS description as to why it don't work or match a sales description.

Even worse, when 30 Days is plenty time for an Item to be cannibalised for its working parts, with these being exchanged for parts in a model which is with fault. The arrangement for a professional service to carry out the work (not knowing they are complicit in supporting a scam) is even possible in this time scale. The sent Item with Serial Number recorded is returned as a partially functioning or non-working item, with a not as advertised buyers complaint. 

None of these abuses being described are fantastical, they are all strongly suspected to have been realised and the suspicions raised by the Vendor of how they have been scammed are most likely very accurate.

It is also a strong suspicion buyers under one Moniker are quite possibly Sellers under another Moniker, where the item acquired is only intended as temporary,  with the ulterior motive to create goods that are saleable using components from temporary owned purchases. 

Bank Drafts and Cash on Collection or a ESCROW with a pre agreed 24 Hour Payment Release are certainly a friend of the Vendor.

A Buyer has the opportunity to work out the condition of their purchase within 24 hours, visual inspection is minutes, a working demo' can be numerous hours within this time frame.

The reduction in time to dispute a sale, should be a negotiable agreement that can be selected as a option for all sales payment platforms. It will certainly sift out the individuals who are dedicated to the sale, without a hidden agenda, needing the additional time to fulfil their deceitful intentions.    

I bought and sold a several components on usaudiomart. It's about communication, you pretty much have to figure out if the person on the other end is trustworthy. Ask some questions that aren't realistic but the responses will be telling:

"I will be in the area, can I listen to it?"

If the response is: "it's in the shed, I just had surgery, I can't get up, well.... why would his/her priority be to sell this thing."

 

 

I bought and sold a several components on usaudiomart. It's about communication, you pretty much have to figure out if the person on the other end is trustworthy. Ask some questions that aren't realistic but the responses will be telling:

"I will be in the area, can I listen to it?"

If the response is: "it's in the shed, I just had surgery, I can't get up, well.... why would his/her priority be to sell this thing."

As a seller, I can be picky too. I don't want tire kickers in my home, and will generally ignore such buyers, unless I know you. If you don't trust a seller's feedback history, why even bother?

Even if you try this on a 0-feedback seller that has intent to defraud, they might just call your bluff. They can cut contact any time and what do they have to lose?

everyone has to start from zero reviews and any seller can go rouge after many positive reviews. If the seller refuses to show the equipment, even in a parking lot, I wouldn't bother. The desire to look at expensive, decade+ old equipment is not tire kicking.