I love the Well tempered Clavier there is so much to learn from them.
I remember a saying by Busoni that was, Bach is the Old Testament and Beethoven The New and together they make Liszt possible.
(Yes maybe !!!!).
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@rvpiano Rv Thanks for that , it's not always one is allowed to play what one likes when you also have to earn living. I love the Well tempered Clavier there is so much to learn from them. I remember a saying by Busoni that was, Bach is the Old Testament and Beethoven The New and together they make Liszt possible. (Yes maybe !!!!). |
@cd318 Although not my favourite pianist by any means Mr Goulds 1955 Goldbergs given the Zenph treatment are now very enjoyable indeed and if I want to listen to Gould's account then that is the one I pick up. I am really saddened that Mr Zenph's wizardry was assasinated by big record companies never to return. Shame on them can you imagine that Zenph could have brought Rachmaninov and Hoffman and possibly all the Golden Age pianists back to life but no, big business had to crush it till another centenary would come up and they would reissue hiss ridden reissues again and again. Just imagine a little collaboration and we could have been listening to musicians recorded from 60 years and more sounding as if they were in your home. No big business won't let the little man win. Signing off now in case I blow a gasket. |
A great big yes to Julia Fischer for me , she is a supreme virtuoso and probably the best of todays bunch . She is dammed near as good on the piano also. My love affair started with her a number of years ago when she was playing the Dvorak Concerto at the Proms and got a rapturous applause from the audience. She came back on a number of times and then came back with her violin and stood stock still as if pondering something. After a short time she looked up and apologised for saying nothing so she told us that when she walked on she didn't know what to play and since there was twenty four of the we knew then that it would be Paganini's 24 Caprices but she said it so matter of factly that we all knew she had them all at her fingertips. What a performer, no other today like her. Now about the Sibelius Violin Concerto for me it's another young lady I listen to , it's Lisa Batiashvhili who captured me . She is wonderfully accompanied by Daniel Barenboim at the helm of the Staatskapelle Berlin. there are parts that the playing just takes your breath away. |
@rvpiano RV I noticed your comment abut Milstein and yes I would definitely put him with the other two but I doubt if there was anyone who could play the sonatas and partitas of Bach like him his sense of structure and ability to land on a note after the most ferocious arpeggios with perfect intonation is nothing short of staggering. I listen to the D Minor Partita from him at least once a week |
@schubert Len, if of any interest to you there is a glorious madrigal recording on Qobuz at the moment. Verdelot : Madrigals for Four Voices.by Profeti Della Quinta. It is some of the finest singing I have heard in a very long time with perfect diction so in tune with each other. I'm afraid to say I hadn't heard of Philippe Verdelot before this but I will definitely be looking him up for more . |
@rvpiano A true one off. Incomparable !! |
@twoleftears I haven't sampled this disc yet but tomorrow I'll surely do so. I have very high hopes for the future of this pianist but like Trifonov she has masses of technique but they need time to grow into the stars they will be in the future. I also think she has an enormous pallet of colours to fall on as exhibited in Pictures at an Exhibition. When I look at the You Tube video of her playing this piece every time I catch a closeup of her face her eyes are tightly shut and a rapturous look on her face (Liszt would certainly approve) I also like her rendering of Standchen but can I point you to another recording of it from Kissin who I think makes more of the virtuousity in it and therefor making the piece sing more and there are many footfalls in that piece so a transcendental technique is really needed in those Schubert/Liszt pieces. |
@jcazador Jeremy thanks for posting that film of Arrau it was an absolute hoot to watch. I have looked for it for years and was very pleased to see it . Of course as a biopic account what to film and what to leave must have been a major consideration in such a long and packed life. Poor Claudio hardly aged a bit , only his hair getting greyer. It is great to see your heroes when they are young and realise that they were just as impulsive as the young of today , but even there you could see an astonishing technique and what a stretch he had . Thanks for that I only wish I could speak Spanish. |
I would like to say that Claudio Arrau and Vladimir Horowitz were fully up to and in certain ways passed Moravec with their playing. As far as Arrau is concerned you only have to look on Idagio at the moment and he is playing the 4 Ballades and the 4 Scherzi. which was a stupendous disc when it came out at first. I went through a couple of LPs by constantly playing them. It was so strange for a lot of people to believe that a South American who trained in the Germanic tradition could play Chopin so well. He had a repertoire that ranged from Bach to Schoenberg. His Debussy was beautifully liquid and his rubatos were wonderful. And now of course we have Mr Horowitz who I think got better as he got older and thank goodness he still had a reasonable technique left to give us some wonderful recordings for us to savour. Get your wallet out !!! |
Hi Jeremy, I have looked for the recording you mentioned but cannot find it on Idagio. I have consolidated my streaming now , I have given up Qobuz because of this dammed decision to play music by female composers, before any of you jump on me I have not got it in for female musicians or composers in fact my third favourite pianist is Martha Argerich so I am just saying that I am fed up with each month taken up by lesser musicians so I stopped Qobuz. What I will ay there is a disc with Yuya Wang and a cellist ( forget his name ) doing the rounds and she is playing Rachmaninov and it is really special. I would have a look out for it if I was you as I am sure you will enjoy it . Another very special female musician is Maria Joao P Pires which at the moment I am listening to her Chopin - Piano Concerto No 1, It is absolutely beautiful as is all things from her. |
Jeremy, that was a really good article on Moravec I really enjoyed it. It shows you the power that some high flying conductors really had, they could destroy a career at the stroke of a pen. I am glad he kept his integrity intact. He really was a superb pianist and yes I do love his Chopin Nocturnes ( Up there with Arrau and Pires for me ). Take care , Jim. PS I am listening to James Ehnes's take on The Sonatas and Partita's for solo violin By my hero , JS Bach, absolutely divine. |
I have a stunning new recording for you to listen to , it's Brahms Piano Works By, Alexandre Kantorow. Stunning BIS recording and playing from Kantorow. The 4 Ballades Op 10. Sonata No 3 in F Minor Chaconne from Bach's D Minor arranged for Left hand. This one has been popular lately as none other than Triffonov has laid his hand on it lately ( pun intended ) It really is a special recording probably in reflective mode. |
@melm734 I Have just purchased the download of Kantorow A la Russe and I shall listen later on when I can get some peace, will let you know later. |
@twoleftears Yes I do prefer Kissin playing that one , his phrasing is better and also Horowitz makes a lovely job of it. |
@twoleftears At the moment I am listening to Chochieva. Playing The Chopin Etudes the thought comes back to me from the three book anthology by Prof. Alan Walker on the life and times of Franz Liszt. where Liszt is in Chopin's apartments and Chopin is at his writing desk listening to Liszt and trying to write to a friend at the same time. He actually wrote that at that moment in time he did not know what he was writing as Liszt was playing thorough his Op.10 etudes and all he was thinking was how he could steal Liszt's way of playing his Etudes as he was totally astonished by it . He had dedicated his Op.10 to Liszt, no wonder Schumann called him Klaviator Maximus . I digress so back to my point of the recording I think this young woman has an astonishing technique and people listening to her playing these Etudes must exhibit the same astonishment at her keyboard prowess. I think she has a lot to say in the near future so I will keep my ears primed. The only quibble I have it is too closely recorded for me. I like a wee bit more air around the instrument. |
@jim5559 I see you have posted a recording of one of my favourite harpsichordists and organists not forgetting conductors and pioneers of searly music playing. I shall look forward to listening to it tomorrow. |
@twoleftears Yes superlative indeed, that young lady has a stellar career in front of her she is astonishing. About more time between tracks I totally agree with you it hardly gives you time to draw a breath. I must say though that the recording quality of most of the piano recordings I listen to nowadays are superbly detailed and tonally awesome. I have been listening to young Alexandre Kantorow these last two days and they are all on the BIS label and they are I would say the best classical recording label out today. Their sound is so dynamic and detailed that I have trouble remembering I am listening through headphones and not in the Usher hall. A little tip here on the technical side of things here , I have just bought a new USB cable for between my PC and DAC. Is is a CAD 11 USB cable and it surely is a star . It cost a bloody fortune but it is worth it for what it brings in detail tone and just old fashioned enjoyment . Another thing I got was a filter that goes between my router and PC by way of the Ethernet. Another Eureka moment as it seems to clear up the gunge and digital noise from the signal. It is from Network Acoustics and it is called the ENO. If you want to radically clean your streaming then those two boys are for you. |
@rvpiano You are right RV about Lewis playing the Brahms late pieces I listened to them last night and totally agree with you. There are a few recordings of late Brahms doing the rounds at the moment, Volodos Kantorow and Lewis and all special in their own way. |
@jim5559 Yes you certainly got that one right but you have illuminated another point , in music like the drill field Discipline rules also . Where would we all be without our scales arpeggios, thirds fifths and octaves. Yes that is why the drill has to start early at three onwards. I pity that life and thank providence for the product of those years. |
Yes Len I surely do agree with you and sympathise at the same time. I also think it is too late to reverse what we yes We have done to this planet. And I really don,t think the wee poison dwarf will win us our independence. As Rab said "Sold for a passel O' silver " and it still goes on. Scotia forever. |
@rvpiano RV have had a few listens to young Grosvenor's Liszt recital and yes he certainly does great things with the Sonata and most other things. I don't think he has the way with the three Petrarch Sonnet's though as they seem quite distant and detached, have a listen to Arrau and it's a different ball game. |
RV I've just had a chance to listen to Zlata Chochieva and have to say she is superb. She has technique in abundance and a superb musical mind. Her rendition of the three Rachmaninov transcriptions are wonderful especially the Gigue which is very fast and a technical marvel. I'm going to look forward to hearing more from her. This is definitely my kind of recording. |
@schubert Len I don't know if you know or not but Theodor Currenzis has a wonderful recording of Tchaikovsky's Pathetique symphony and the conducting and recording quallity are wonderful.Some of the transients on full orchestra are frightening making you jump out of your seat. Have a listen if you can I am sure you and all others here will enjoy it. I hope you are keeping well Len during this monstrous lockdown , keep your spirits up my friend. Alba forever. |
@schubert Len I hope Currentzis doesn't disappoint as being a canny Scot I hate wasting money ( grew up with none so do not want to waste what has taken me a lifetime to accrue). You are so right about the state of the army here. We no longer have any Scottish regiments as everything was made into a national force with all officers now coming from Sandhurst. The ones I remember, Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders Cameron Highlanders Cameronians Royal Scots Fusiliers Black Watch Royal Scots Greys The Seaforth Highlanders Highland Light Infantry Gordon Highlanders Kings Own Scottish Borderers Royal Scots Ayrshire Yeomanry Atholl Highlanders There are more which don't come to mind at the moment. I will always remember those early films about World War One with those glorious charges on the German lines and nothing but a mass of kilts getting mown down by the German Maxim guns, it was absolute bloody slaughter. All the English Generals were 20 miles away in a French Chateau getting pissed on wine from the cellar. Keep a light in your heart for Scotia. |
Len have you ever heard The Corries sing Flower of Scotland ?. Roy Williamson wrote the song and before it became our second national anthem when he and Ronnie were doing a concert anywhere the crowd would not let them leave the stage until they sang it and sometimes twice. A wee poser for you what's our first anthem, I say that because I haven't came across someone born after 2000 who could tell me our official anthem was. I'm glad you have had you second jag as I have had my first and don't know when I get my second as it could be up to twelve weeks. You take care Len. |
@jcazador Thanks for the link, it's nice to put fingers to an interpretation. Isn't it amazing that he is not even 20 yet. I see he takes lessons from Murray Perahia. |
I really have to say that for me the greatest 5th is Beethoven's ,it exploded onto the scene in Vienna in 1808 and nobody had heard such audacity and daring in a symphony before. It goes through every emotion unimaginable despair to absolute joy. It to me is the most perfect symphony of the 19th century and beyond. When I was very young I burned myself out from playing it too often but now as I am old with lots of time on my hands I spend most of my time now streaming and have found lots of original instrument bands from Germany and the bring a crisp rawness to the sound that I like to think the folks heard at the premier of the symphony. I also love the Sibelius symphony again conducted by "Glorious John". |
Len my friend thank you for your words , you are very kind. We seem to be on the same planet regarding lots of things and especially music. I have always loved Kurt Masur and did you know that none other than Claudio Arrau revered Masur especially when going over Europe concertizing. We are in good company then. I also love deep in my heart the German Romantic tradition, Wagner excepted. I am glad that music in Germany is still in rude health. The new German Baroque Orchestras that have sprung up in the last 10 years has been so great with the Freiburg band a notable example. I hope you are feeling a bit safer now you have had your 2 jabs. Be safe my friend , slangevar Jim. |
@schubert Hi Len I have just got round to good old Alfred's Emperor concerto and must say he and Mazur were certainly enjoying the experience. I also listened to some of your pipe band records and it took me back to the sixties when I used to play in the Ayr Pipe Band but gave it up because I was always getting tinnitus so I stayed with the guitar and lute. |