@yyzsantabarbara I have been warned off Krell amps by a couple of respected friends who say there are issues with fan failure in the newer units. There is one in Orange County offered for $4700, plus The Music Room is taking offers on new sealed units at $7999, which means they will go below that. There must be a reason they are being offered used at less than half MSRP only four years after introduction. I am comfortable with used, but would prefer to items that hold their value like Pass. There is a used Coda #8 offered at $4200, but that is 2/3 of new price. I can't find any Tyr on the used market. Of course they are only a couple of years out since introduction.
Coda #8, Pass XA25, or Schiit Tyr to replace PS Audio M700
I recently upgraded my power amp from a Nakamichi PA7Aii to PS Audio M700 monoblocks. I honestly expected to flip the M700 pair quickly because I did not think they would be better than the PA7Aii. The M700s actually provide a wider and more detailed soundstage. I sold the Nak.
I listen (often passively) for several hours each day. I began to identify a 'shrill' on the high end. Since I had upgraded my DAC (DirectStream Mk1) I initially thought that could be it. I rotated three DACs through the system (DS, N130, and Eversolo DMP-A6). All of them had the shrill. I then put in an old NAD 7600 and the shrill went away along with a lot of the detail. Put the M700 back in and used the EQ from the DMP-A6 streamer to limit extreme high end. Ended up with a -1 Q starting at 19,500 Hz that solved the shrill, but also muddied the high end detail. I don't trust the EQ a lot and figure more is being impacted than the targeted range.
This led me to consider upgrading the M700 pair. I have a pair of Acoustat 1+1 speakers with low sensitivity efficiency (81 to 86 depending on who the source is) with a pair of Rythmik F12SE subs and an active crossover at 100 Hz controlled by the SPL Crossover. My budget is around $6K.
Looked at the Pass XA25. Not certain there is enough power there although a Pass representative encouraged my to try it. I was hoping to get two used and use them as mono blocks.
The Schiit Tyr has been on my short list for awhile (prior to buying the M700). The Schiit AI tool actually stated the Tyr was not a good match and suggested other Schiit amps. This seemed strange to me. I sent an email to Schiit seeking clarification, but have not heard back. I may go to there store in LA this week to talk to someone live.
The Coda #8 came up as an option as I was exploring. I looked at other Coda used products, but #8 seems to match up best. (Well, the #16 matched up best, but was more than double my budget). I will go take a look at it later this week. Not a mono block but could work.
I am essentially seeking the last 1-2% of the detail the Acoustats can provide. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
One final note. I am not interested in tube power amps. I don't like the fussiness of tubes and the Acoustats seem to pick up the hum from tubes. I know it shouldn't happen with their sensitivity, but I notice it. It could be my prejudice, but please no tube suggestions.
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@sid-hoff-frenchman you make some great points. The XA30.8 is a close comparison to the XA25. It sells for a bit more, but some seem to like the First Watt DNA for the XA25. That the Tyr little brother won out says a lot. I look forward to seeing them tomorrow. |
How loudly do you like to listen and how big is your room? XA25 may very well run out of steam given the sensitivity if your speakers if you like to crank up the volume and want some slam. I have an INT-25 on rotation with Joseph Audio Perspectives at 84 db and things start to fall apart when I get into the 80s db SPL, and this is in my bedroom where I'm like 7-8 ft away. Still a wonderful sounding piece of gear. I used to run an XA25 direct from DAC and think it might be even better. I'm a big fan of Pass Labs amps, but most of them are too heavy and run too hot for me. Honestly I didn't like the Coda #8 much at all. Sounded artificial and "glassy", for lack of a better term. Plenty of power and control, however. In fact, aside from the tone, I'd be hard pressed to criticize on specific sound characteristics. Quite even handed and detailed with good imaging. It just did not do it for me at all. You never know how good something will be to your ears until you try. |
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