DAC drops out when Furnace starts or stops. HELP


Every time my furnace or water heater (gas, power vented) kicks on or off my DAC drops out momentarily. My audio system, furnace and water heater are all on separate dedicated ac lines. My AC panel was updated to a 200 amp service some years back.
I checked all connections from the panel to each device and internally checked all electrical connections in the furnace and water heater, verifying proper hot, neutral and ground.
I checked and tightened all wires in the service entrance panel.
Has this happened to anyone else? If so what did you do to correct it?
Any help will be appreciated.
jadedavid
Good call on the cable, Jim (Jea48). I would not have guessed that. And your explanation sounds very plausible. I agree with Kijanki's comments as well.

Jadedavid, the reason that a length of 1.5 meters is often recommended for digital cables is further explained in this paper. It relates to the potential effects on jitter (short term fluctuations) in the timing of D/A conversion, that may result from the inevitably less than perfect impedance matches between the cable and the components that are being connected.

As Kijanki indicated, though, and as can be inferred from the paper, many system dependent variables factor into the likelihood of that length being optimal. A notable one being the risetimes and falltimes of the signal that is sent into the cable (i.e., the amount of time for the signal to transition between its lower and higher voltage states, and vice versa), which are generally unspecified and unknown. So while 1.5 meters may generally stand a greater chance of being optimal than 1 meter, that will not always be the case.

All of that relates to sound quality, though, and usually not to the kind of problem you have encountered. But I wouldn't be surprised if the characteristics of the shield relate to it, as Kijanki indicated. Given that two different appliances cause similar symptoms, though, my guess is that it is not differences in shielding against RFI pickup that are involved, but rather effects of the shield or other signal return conductor in the cable on a ground loop issue that may be occurring between the two components. A ground loop issue conceivably resulting in the marginal lock Jim referred to.

An interesting experiment, therefore, might be to temporarily put a cheater plug (a 3-prong to 2-prong adapter, with the safety ground connection not connected), on the power plug of either the DAC or the component that is providing the signal to it. That would break any ground loops between the two components. Then see if the problem still occurs with the shorter cable.

Regards,
-- Al
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Correction:

I said,

You never said if the furnace or hot water heater are gas or electric.
If electric my guess is they are fed by single phase 240Vac.
10-09-15: jea48

Every time my furnace or water heater (gas, power vented) kicks on or off my DAC drops out momentarily.
10-07-15: Jadedavid

Guess I missed that......
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Thanks to all for the suggestions and info. After listening again tonight I have had no drop outs with the 2nd digital cable in place.
However I think "Almarg" has hit on the root cause.
I have been constantly fighting a ground loop hum that I cannot cure.
I have tried cheater plugs on some/all pieces of equipment, plugging all the audio gear into one strip, isolation transformers ETC ETC.
I have come to the limits of my knowledge of finding the source of the imbalance.
Thanks for the ground/neutral info from "Cdrc".
I think it"s time to call in an electrician. Hopefully I can find one who understands this type of problem.

I think it"s time to call in an electrician. Hopefully I can find one who understands this type of problem.
Your average electrician will not solve a ground loop problem.

Here is a white paper for you to read.


I have tried cheater plugs on some/all pieces of equipment, plugging all the audio gear into one strip, isolation transformers ETC ETC.
What equipment in your system uses the AC power mains safety equipment ground? (Check all audio equipment with an IEC power connector for the safety equipment ground pin/blade. If only 2 blades the equipment ground is not used on the equipment.)

Are you sure you are hearing a hum or could it be a low level buzz?

It would help if you listed your equipment, ICs, speaker cables, and any after market power cords you are using.

By chance do you have a TV with CATV or a Dish connected to the system?
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