Daedalus DA-1


The Daedalus DA-1 is a medium size floorstanding speaker that is exceedingly musical and a joy to behold. I recently had the opportunity to audition this loudspeaker at Response Audio in upstate New York. Bill Baker, who owns Response, is a tube and two-channel audio enthusiast who designs and builds his own amplifiers and demonstrates the DA-1's with enthusiasm and integrity. I recommend his shop to anyone in the Northeast as a source of off-the-beaten track gear and honest, helpful service.

The DA-1 is made from solid hardwood, using old world handcrafted techniques such as dovetail joinery. The speakers come in oak, cherry and black walnut, with the baffles made of the latter material regardless of finish. They are simply stunning to look at--I found myself rubbing my hands upon the surface as I would a fine piece of furniture. The speakers are also "proportionally correct" in that, while clearly a large and full range floorstander, they do not and will not dominate the room by their sheer physical presence. Lou Hinckey, who designs and builds the speakers, has also incorporated some interesting geometry by making the inside panel narrower than the outside one and sloping the baffle slightly to time align the drivers. The result is a unique and attractive package that is said to minimize standing waves inside the cabinet.
Lou is a musician who builds acoustic amplification PA systems and therefore entered the world of high end speaker design via a side door. He brings his musicians ear and determination to reproduce acoustic instruments faithfully--and this he has surely done. In fact, this is perhaps the most attractive aspect of the DA-1's sound. Obeos, violins, guitars, cellos, etc. are reproduced with flesh and body. The ability to distinguish between clarinet, oboe and basson is as easy as when you are sitting in front of an orchestra. This, I have found, is a rare quality in many audiophile designs. Instruments tend to sound thin and homogenous, with much of their communicative cues lost. This, for me, strips away much of the emotional quality of the listening experience. The DA-1's are fully engaging, drawing you into the performance in a way few speakers are able to do.
Lou also talks a lot about listener fatigue and has designed the speaker to be a winner over long listening sessions. I can confirm this having spent about 4 hours at Bill's shop. The DA-1's are highly listenable, with a slightly recessed midrange similar to the BBC dip found in brands like Harbeth and Spendor. The DA-1's don't dump the music in your lap, they draw you into the performance without sacrificing detail and clarity. How Lou was able to design and build a high resolution speaker that does not offend over long term listening, I don't know--but he has. While the DA-1's may not be as revealing as some speakers, they are fast, dynamic and highly resolving.
The DA-1's do not image as precisely as some speakers. The soundfield is not huge despite the size and multiple drive units. Images are somewhat diffuse (due, perhaps, to his use of two tweeters slightly offset to enlarge dispersion). This did not bother me in the least, as I am not "into" soundstaging and imaging per se. However, some may be disappointed in how the speakers localize instruments if that is your cup of tea. Rather, the DA-1's sound like live music in that the presentation is bold, dynamic and the sound like that you would hear at a live concert.
High frequency response is good, not great. The tweeters do not spit or misbehave but the speakers lack the last bit of air and definition that some comparably priced speakers produce. This may have been due to inadequate break in time. The speakers do have a two position adjustment for the tweeter output and this was set at "high" during my listening sessions.
The bass response was also not to my liking. There was good authority but in Bill's room (which is very large and not really well designed for music reproduction--he is in the process of renovations which should yield better results) I found the bass lacking pace and timing. It also seemed as though part of the lower regions was being emphasize over others. My discussions/correspondence with DA-1 owners suggests to me that the room was the culprit but I am reserving judgement. Anyone care to weigh in here?
In the end, the DA-1's are, for the money, one of the best (if not best) loudspeakers I have heard in my search thus far (and some of you know how long I've been looking). With the exception of the bass, which I believe may be room incurred, and the slight lack of air and extension in the treble, you would be hard pressed to find a more musical and enjoyable loudspeaker. I strongly urge anyone who is in the market for a beautiful floorstander that is easy to drive (96db) and fun and involving to listen to to give Bill a shout and check them out. If you do, please post your thoughts and keep the dialogue going about a relatively unknown product of serious merit.

Here is the Daedalus website:

http://www.daedalusaudio.com/design%20notes2.html
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I have these wonderful spks for the last 6 months and enjoying them immensely. Based on the review above I agree with his observation except the bass response. The weak point of these spks is that it lacks pin point imaging. The soundstage is huge, both depth and width but the images are slightly diffused. Other than that, the spks are very dynamic and detailed without any hint of brightness or listener fatigue.
After spiking the spks, the bass response improved tremendously with very good pitch, definition and impact. Hence if properly setup these spks can reproduce very good bass.
Over the past 10 years in this hobby, possessing a spks for 6 months or so , I have an urge to replace them with something better and more expensive, BUT my DA-1 are so musically satisfying that I am not at all motivated to change them. Sure there are many better spks than DA-1 but I cannot afford them.
Thanks
I was recently introduced to this thread and would like to chime in here. When Berrelchief auditioned and purchsed the DA-1 speakers, the audition was in an entirely different enviroment as it was my old building. The room was dedicated to the Daedalus speakers (13' w x 17' d x 10' h) with concrete floors.
I am well aware of the room accoustics in the new location and this is being addressed. Even I have noticed the DA-1s reacting differently. The room is huge at about 1400 ft with suspended ceiling and a full basement below. I have since had an engineer that designs recording studios stop by and his thoughts mirrored what is being said....... the room needs work.

Over the next few months, the room will be devided into dedicated areas and accoustics addressed accordingly. I have not been in the new building very long and time has been a great issue.

The bottom line is that even I realize there is a situation with the room and in due time, this will be taken care of.

On a final note, I can also assume that the speakers here for audition may not have been fully broken in. I had bass drivers installed that had "some time" on them but the midrange and tweeters may not have reached their 200 hour mark which is what I find to be the magical number.
If my comment came across as though I was bashing anything, I apologize.

I was shocked that Dodgealum left his demo session with anything but an A+ reportcard. My comments were only to back up that the shortcomings that Dodgealum described do not add up. I am basing this on my speakers, as well as the demo that I did in Response's previous location, last summer.

As Dodgealum and I were exchanging thoughts, it was obvious that his experience did not reveal how great these speakers are (for so many reasons.) Therefore, based on what he described, I could only conclude that there were room issues and it sounded as though the speakers needed more time cooking.

Bill, you know that as a dealer, you have my full respect & support. So, if something was read out of context, I am sorry.
Hello Barrelchief,
I am not sure how to read your recent post. I did not in any way think you were making any negative comments. My post was to agree with what appears to room issues in my new location as experienced by Dodgealum during his visit. This is why I mentioned your audition was in my previous location in a better, dedicated audio room.

I truly appreciate your added comments to this thread and took them as you meant them, as a positive.

Looks like I should be apologizing for something being read out of context, I am sorry.
I want to jump in here as well. Bill, glad to have you aboard on the post as you have the most experience with this speaker. I hope a careful read of my initial post/review will reveal:

1. That I believe the DA-1's are an excellent speaker and have great potential that I may not have realized during my visit because.....

2. The speakers were placed in a difficult room and....

3. May not have been fully broken in. And....

4. That Bill and Response Audio are great to work with and are competent, honest and enthusiastic dealers for the Daedalus line.

Looking back, I wish I had waited for a second listen in a different location before writing the review. However, I was so excited about what I heard during my initial session that I wanted to get word out about this fantastic product. In all my years in audio I have not heard a speaker that provides such a natural, fullrange, detailed and non-fatiguing presentation of music. Only the Harbeth line can compete for sheer musicality and they don't go as deep or look nearly as nice doing it. Honestly, much of what is out there that passes for "high end" loudspeakers do not possess anywhere near the integrity of the DA-1's. I told Bill this when we talked briefly after my audition. I am looking forward with great anticipation to hearing the speakers again and resolving for myself the issues with the bass response. All signs point to a difficult room and Bill's recognition of this only seals the deal. I'm glad to see DA-1 owners stepping up to praise their speakers--they are worthy indeed. Sorry if my review left anyone with a bad taste in their mouth--I'll add to the post after hearing the speakers again within the next few months.