David Wilson must be a little annoyed...

the Absolute Sound has pronounced the relative new-comer Magico as having designed the least-flawed loudspeaker in the world (the Q7). the Wison XLF is described as the best "cost-no-object" speaker, and while "flawed" in some respects, is the company's best effort yet. given the lengthy history of attempts at making a perfect transducer, Wilson and its many devotees might take all this as a funny way of saying "better luck next time" instead of "this by far exceeds all that has come before which was already pretty darn good".
i have little doubt that, for $180,000 (or name another huge number) the Q7 is very VERY good. the cabinet is "inert", the drivers weigh next to nothing, and the crossovers are made from premium parts arranged as carefully as technology allows. But once upon a time, the B&W 801 Matrix ($5500) was
called the "audio end of the road" by Stereophile. so ACCURATE was this loudspeaker that you could tell what kind of bassoon the guy in the orchestra was playing, and on what row, completely distinct from every other instrument being played. you needed a chain of superior components upstream of course. but i will never forget personally auditioning this speaker and thinking "WOW"
as the music was clearer and cleaner with the best bass extension than anything i had ever heard before.
of course better speakers HAVE since been designed and the bass i was so impressed with turned out to lag behind the other drivers and needed a better design, better parts, etc. to catch up. but the Kevlar midrange unit is still with us in various forms, and the isolation of the "head unit" from the low-bass is also still a common technique. but how many multiples of $5500 (even allowing for inflation) does it take to clean up the sound of a loudspeaker, and also keep it from "shaking and baking" if you really crank up the volume?
I think everyone knows that probably $20K, maybe $30K, should give the speaker manufacturer a lot to work with. And for $50K you could wrap it in the most attractive materials on the planet Earth.
After 60 some odd years of reading about "OMG" components in the audio press, I would love to congradulate Magico on the one hand, and express my annoyance from another (and another ad.infinitum) article about the new greatest hi-fi thing for [you can't afford it]. personally i just happen to like the shape and appearance of the Q7 a lot, very clean, very uncomplicated. i do favor using grill coverings however, and feel that should always be an option
lest someone comes along "poking" the drivers to see how they move. there might even be some "contour" controls on the back turning up or down the tweeter or attenuating the bass to allow for a less than perfect room (although how could one place a "perfect" speaker in an imperfect environment?)
if this entire argument is exciting, or conversely tiresome, i just would like other persons' reactions to these pronouncements in the audio press.
and WHAT IF the Wilson XLF was placed side by side with the Q7 and you asked pro reviewers as well as music lovers to decide which speaker was better and/or which would be easier to live with long run?
while you're at it bring in a Rockport, MBL, Kharma, Nola, etc. set of speakers and try to decide all over again. Make it even more fun, and limit
the selling price to $50K or below, and see just how close you can come.
Just some random thoughts as we enter into the Audio Cliff....
Everybody forgets the main reason to buy Magicos...they don't warp or get eaten by wood boring insects. I'm buying a pair to leave outside by the pool. All the pools for that matter. Even the Grotto. "Jeeves...bring the Bentley around...we're off to Goodwin's!"
go to listen to a new pair of Magic S5 or a Gyia before buying the sasha... and yes, at the end it is your decision to stop spinning the hamster wheel!
Stereotaipei: I've read your car analogy at least 5 times and cannot, for the life of me, understand your point.

I'm a longtime MM3 owner and recently bought Micro Ones for a 2nd system. The Micro Ones are remarkable in their ability to mimic the MM3 sound, albeit without the bass extension, last few percent of resolution and complete effortlessness of their big brothers.

You state that the delimitation cracks appeared after your shipment to the new owner and not during your ownership period. How is this now a manufacturing problem rather than one related to the packing, shipping, unpacking and set-up routine which we all know can be problematical?

As for bang for the buck- At $40K the MM3s are a flat steal- all MM3 owners should be arrested!! At $165K I doubt many would describe the Q7s as a steal. You can go ahead and justify the BIG $$$ you spent on the Q7s with your ridiculous attacks on the MM3s and then praise the swiss watch quality you perceive in your new Magicos. That is human nature and this is still a free country.

I truly hope you continue to love your Magicos, they're very nice speakers.
Don't trust opinion on forums.... every time I bought something based on online opinion and without listening in advance, it ended up being a big disappointment.

Quote of the year :)
12-13-12: Elberoth2

Don't trust opinion on forums.... every time I bought something based on online opinion and without listening in advance, it ended up being a big disappointment.

Quote of the year :)
Elberoth2 (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Not my experience. One needs to know how to FILTER out all the garbage similar to all/PROFESSION opinions.

Westborn, my brief experience with Ohm F's is similar to yours. My roommate after college had a pair in the house.