Then there is this: I don't know if ARC still does this, but they did in the early 90's, and is what got me questioning their ethics. When the LS2 Mk.2 was discontinued, my local ARC dealer had a few "Factory Reconditioned" units available at the price of $1995 (originally $2995). The carton was stamped as such, and the dealer did not conceal the fact that they were reconditioned. All above board. However, after all the reconditioned LS2's had been sold, ARC then shipped non-reconditioned units to their dealers, pricing them at the same $1995! I felt betrayed, taken advantage of, insulted, and disgusted. ARC obviously should have offered both reconditioned and non-reconditioned simultaneously, at different price points, the non-reconditioned at $1995 and the reconditioned at perhaps $1495. Short-sighted on ARC's part, at best. And, I feel, ethically indefensible.