Difference in quality in products made in China?


There is a belief among many audiophiles that electronics assembled in China or Korea are not as well made as products assembled in the USA and England. This has nothing to do,(I believe) with the "technical abilities" of workers, as it has to do with standards of quality control, and the sourcing of less quality parts throughout Asia

This may be all hogwash and just biased opinion, but this question comes up to often to be quickly dismissed. From my own experience which is limited compared to other members, the products(amps. pre-amps CD players) I have owned that were made in the USA, or UK, and Canada, have been solid in terms of long term reliability. I would like to hear others opinions on this issue.
sunnyjim
Been there - done that - got the repair bills

Won't ever buy components or wire from china EVER!,

Some iec connectors/plugs seem to be OK.

Since most stuff is built there these days its probably the same as with everything else - buy brand names!
I worked as field engineer for a company that built power plants. We sourced main steam valves (valves that feed the turbine lines) to a Chinese oompany because of price. These valves have to be forged high strength steel alloys. Long story short, we discovered that the valves we installed were two piece welded. That was a disaster waiting to happen.

Ever since then, I shy away from made in china for everything. Every new baby food story etc reinforces the feeling.
Well I got my first bad component that was made in China. It was a used XiangSheng 728A tube preamp that was made a couple of years ago. The previous owner babied it and sent it to me in original packaging. I've bought from this seller before and I know his gear is well taken care of. When I got the 728A I was swapping out tubes and removed those metal retaining clips on the tubes and put the tubes I wanted to roll in. I thought I was being careful with the swapping but when all was said and done one of the tubes wouldn't light up. I had no sound from the other channels. I take the preamp to my tech and from what he saw the soldering of the sockets to the circuit board were shoddy. Also I managed to crack the circuit board as well. He said the quality of the sockets used to was so so. This is a budget preamp so I wasn't surprised about the quality of the tube sockets. The soldering as well as the cracking of the circuit board was surprising.

I've been good with the bevy of China made products I've boght. From Tube phonos, Amps and solid state preamps it has been a good experience. This one was a shocker to me.
(http://news.consumerreports.org/safety/2007/06/can-you-trust-c.html) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/jun/29/dell-problems-capacitors) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague) (http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/maggots-in-the-pasta-europe-screens-tainted-chinese-food/) (http://www.wnd.com/2007/06/41959/) (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/03/14/the-10-most-counterfeited-products-sold-in-america/) (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-07/counterfeit-parts-from-china-found-on-raytheon-boeing-systems.html) (http://news.sky.com/story/20576/fake-chinese-parts-found-in-us-planes) I find the last two especially disturbing, as I spent a lot of time in aircraft.
My purchase was a 50 watt integrated amp - looked fantastic ,stainless steel chassis, cast aluminum tube cages, remote source switching/volume and it sounded pretty good, but under the covers...

The transformer was not built to 120v spec so the heater voltage tap was measured at 7.1v and not 6.3v as it should have been
- this caused premature failure of a complete set gold lion tubes tubes in 3 months

The circuit board had under rated pcb traces that had to be rewired

Some resistors were under rated for their duty - had them replaced

Capacitors used were sub standard for this type of component - had them replaced

I had it fixed for around $400 and it worked very well

After I had sold it (mainly because I was tired of heating my house every time I played music) I had heard that the output transformers were not a great quality either

Looks can sure be deceiving