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Duelund conversion to DIY Helix Geometry Cabling

I have been an avid user of the Duelund cabling for over two years now and have used them exclusively in my system with great results. I have built many for friends and have used a full loom of interconnects, speaker cables, power cords and an extensive wiring modification for a previously owned balanced power conditioner utilizing Duelund 600V PolyCast wiring which was transformative. My cabling desires can be a little addictive as I have owned and evaluated 40+ brands of cabling costing more than an entire stereo system!

Over the past six months I stumbled upon a thread here on Audiogon in regards to a Helix designed cabling and as you probably already know, I just had to look a little deeper into this cable design…After a month of studying and sourcing parts, I decided to reach out to the designer/architect, Williewonka who gave more insights and philosophy on how the cable came into existence.

That conversation got the ball rolling in converting one of my KLE Duelund interconnects to Steve’s Helix designed which only entailed replacing the neutral with a Mil-Spec 16 AWG silver-plated copper wire with the neural wire being 3 times longer than the signal wire and of course the “Coiling” of the neutral wire : )

After the modification was complete, I was not sure what to expect from the Helix cabling but I was quite shocked with the results with “ZERO” burn-in time…The sound stage became much wider/deeper with a much tighter/focused image and clarity/transparency is like nothing I have ever heard in any cabling regardless of cost. In fact, I just sold a full loom of a commercially designed Helix Cable that’s renowned around the world and has more direct sale than any cable manufacturer; these $200 DIY Helix Cables walked all over them…

I believe you will hear the same results as I have and have heard back from friends who have already modified their Duelunds with the same results; WOW! Remember the cables will need 200+ hours to burn-in and settle into your system. My system is now 90% DIY Helix to include IC, SC, PC and Coax with each cabling adding its beauty of an organic and natural presentation that draws you into the fabric of the music.

You can tailor the sound of your cables using Duelund, Mundorf silver/1% gold, the outstanding Vh Audio OCC Solid Copper or Silver with Airlok Insulation or your favorite wiring and you can change it at any time…

 

http://www.image99.net/blog/files/category-diy-cables.html

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/difference-in-sound-between-copper-and-silver-digital-cables

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/adding-shielding-to-existing-cables

 

Enjoy,

Wig


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williewonka
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@pindac - it would appear that the wire you have provided links to is of a comparable (if not higher) quality to the UP-OCC solid copper wire available from other vendors mentioned in this thread

The 0.9mm dia (19 gauge) would be ideal for the interconnects and the thicker gauge you mention would be better suited to Mains and Speaker cables

How much better than the other UP-OCC wires would it be?

  • From what I have read/tanslated, I have no doubt that this wire will perform upto (and may marginally exceed)  the performance level of the UP-OCC wires.
  • when you get to wires of this quality there would be very litte difference between them,
  • so then it comes down to
    • personal poreference
    • cost - this wire appears to be reasonably priced
    • availability - are all required gauges available ?
    • delivery - how long doe it take to arrive ?
    • convenience 
      • ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​Other vendors, like Parts Connxion, are able to supply most (if not all) of the parts required for th Helix cables, so there is the convenience for one-stop-shopping

For me, this wire does not provide enough of a "technological advancement" to warrant the expense and effort of performing a comparison.between rwo wires that would probably offer very similar levels of performance.

For Interconencts - the UP-OCC 5N Solid Silver wire will/does provide significant improvement over this wire and UP-OCC Solid Copper

  • the only thing that deters me from using UP-OCC Solid Silver for speaker cables is the expense
  • but if anyone is pursuing "Audio Nirvana" then this is the wire to

So, If someone out there is looking for wire for a Helix Build, the the DUCC and Tripple C wires would make a very fine cable

Regards - Steve

 

 

 

williewonka
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@mbolek  - here are the links to the wires I used for the interconects

For the Neutral wire:

https://www.partsconnexion.com/NEOTECH-71448.html

For the Signal Wires

ConneX Wire 20awg OCC5N Silver Wire Hook-up (partsconnexion.com)

Regards - Steve

mbolek
179 posts
 

@williewonka    Thx...

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pindac
2,864 posts
 

@williewonka  Thank You for your assessment, and encouragement to continue with the PC Triple C Solid Wire.

It is satisfying to know that I have a Solid Wire, that will be quite useful for my Interconnects which are most likely to be XLR with Atlas Plugs.

If it is not myself to be first build a Helix Design Cable with this wire type, when eventually a build appears, it will become an alternative version and in keeping with the R&D carried out by others on some of the other Helix Versions already offering the positive user impression that caught my attention.

I will one day join the Club, and much of the footwork is done to get on board.  

mbolek
179 posts
 

@pindac, @williewonka 

I have ordered some of the CCC wire.   I'll plan on building two versions of the XLR Helix.

1. partsconnexion bare PC OCC

2. PC CCC

I have no idea how long it will take to get the CCC.  Should be able to build the OCC Helix next week.

Marty

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