Dynaudio C-1 or Harbeth-7-es-III


I know these 2 speakers are not the same price but the C-1 is usually available on Audiogon for around 4000.00. The price of the Harbeth is 3500.00 new. I never see this model of Harbeth available used. So considering they are about the same price which one would you buy.I'm running all tube gear and a analog front end.
taters

I own C-1's and have owned Harbeth 7 es III and SHL-5's. I have huge respect for both Harbeth models and have enjoyed both of them, though the metal tweeter in the 7 es at times can be metallic. The midrange, however, is sublime.

As noted by Nolitan, the Harbeths are more forgiving and sound quite good with modest gear and if your objective is to kick back and
listen to music without pushing the envelop, the Harbeth's are an excellent choice. The are indeed very musical and satisfying.

The C-1's are on another level in terms of bass energy, transparency, speed and high frequency sparkle. Like most really excellent speakers, they will take work to get it right, but the rewards can be hypnotic. In a small to medium size room, they can achieve a level of realism that is truly amazing for a speaker of its modest dimensions. If you are willing to invest the time and resources, they are among the elite monitors available.
With post such as this one it depends on the type of sound one is looking for..

As pointed out by Logenn, C1's for transparency, speed and high frequency extension. The Harbeth for midrange. In other words the C1's offer a cleaner kind of presentation while the C7's more organic. I'm not too sure about bass energy of the C1's being superior to the C7's though as as both of them are fairly close in the frequency spectrum reaching down to 46Hz and 44Hz respectively. I would think it's the bass character that differentiates between the two --the bass of the C1's being cleaner, taut and punchier while the C7's more rounded and diffused owing much to the "lossy" cabinet design.

One advantage of the Harbeth is one doesn't need to spend too much on electronics in getting the best out of them(flea-powered amps work fine due to the easy load) while the Dynaudios are a lot fussier and require some serious quality kit and quite a bit of current behind them to sing to their potential. Otherwise they would sound like crap.

Both are excellent speakers.
both speakers are great,but offer different sound presentation.As owner of Harbeth super shl5 and Contour s1.4 i say my ears prefer sound of harbeth .For that reason i am planning sell S1.4 .I never heard C1,but heard c4.Harbeth sound musical,dynaudio relaxed with dominating bass.
To be clear, yesterday, I did not intend to imply the Harbeth 5's or 7's have a better midrange than the C-1's. Ryder is in the right track by describing them as organic, I would say euphoric, which implies slight coloration, though immensely pleasing.

The C-1's on the other hand, are more neutral in this area and more revealing of the equiptment upstream. Although most people recommend C-1's with high power ss gear, I have had wonderful success with tube electronics, which add a blush of euphoria and warmth, while retaining their transparency and neutrality. Absolute Sound compared them to Wilson Watt Puppy 7's and preferred the C-1's in areas of voice. I have compared the C-1's in my home to Quad 989's with high power Audio Research electronics, and felt it was a horse race in the midrange, but the C-1's being vastly superior in the bass and high frequencies.
I don't believe you can raise the Harbeth's performance to a reference level monitor, as you can with the C-1's.
If you are willing to work on the system, IMO the C-1's offer more potential and a higher level of refinement.

On the other hand, the essential nature of the Harbeth's are so musical, that you can not go wrong with them and with a modicum of effort sound amazing.

Taters, what tube electronics do you have?
Logenn,

I have a Arc vt-100mkIII power amp, arc ls-25 pre-amp and a arc-ph-5 phono-pre-amp.