Fremer's review of the Anna cartridge

Dougdeacon
Why is that no one questions the person who buys and loves a $500K Ferrari, yet the person who buys and loves an audio component costing more than [insert critic's preferred standard] is vilified?

There are no websites dedicated to the proposition that all cars are created equal, that a well tuned Fiat is as good as a Lamborghini, that the Mercedes E-class owner is misguided and foolish. Yet we find reasonably popular audio websites (e.g., Audioholics) which fervently promote cheap as not just a viable way, which it is, but as the only right and justifiable way. Something about audio (more than other hobbies) attracts or generates "my way or the highway" defensiveness that approaches religious fervor. I've been guilty of that attitude myself - it's a peculiar institution.

Doug,
If I may respond just to offer my observations, I don't think anyone is "vilifying" Mike or anyone else who can afford an ultra expensive cartridge. Perhaps Ortofon got some flack in this thread, but I certainly welcomed Mike's and Onhwy61's comments about their Annas. Perhaps what you're referring to is personal animosity and attacks in general that seem to, way too often, accompany discussions on audiophile boards. That is very unfortunate, but is certainly not reserved for those with all-out-assault systems from my personal experience.

Regarding the topic of this thread, I was simply astounded by Fremer's experience with a close to $9,000 cartridge, and Ortofon's complete ignorance of the issue in their response. As an audiophile/vinylphile, I have a keen general interest in everything that is related to high-end analog playback, whether I can afford it or not. The proposition that I should not be allowed to comment on a Stereophile article because I don't own an Anna, or am not about to order one, as expressed by Onhwy61, is absurd in my opinion.

I also think your analogy to uber-expensive cars with respect to high-end music reproduction equipment, albeit tempting, is not exactly apples to apples. I think we'd all agree that high-end audio is unique in high-end consumer product industries as it often preys on the naivety, ignorance, or cluelessness, or combination of all three, of many audiophiles and sells overpriced products where more attention went to the packaging than quality of the parts and actual sound. Hence you have the value vs. price criticism that is a common theme in audiophile discussions. I don't have a clue whether a Ferrari is worth its price on paper, but I do know that when you get one, you expect nothing short of a flawless driving machine, and nobody would accept anything less, which is often not the case in the high-end audio market. So any comparison of a $500,000 Ferrari to car in a different, lesser class would be preposterous to anyone who knows anything about cars, let alone experts. That said, I'm sure you could find a few people who would find a Buick more comfortable than a Lamborghini, and better suited to what they think is the whole purpose of a car: to get you from place A to place B at a much lower price...

Hi Actusreus,

Thanks for reading and responding to my little story and sorry if I took your thread OT.

The person who pointed to RtC was indeed vilifying. His comments have been vile for as long as he's been around. I stand by that characterization.

My car example might not have been the most apropos, sorry, but there are other examples that resemble high end audio in their price extremes. Take other luxury consumer items like jewelry, designer perfumes, cosmetics and clothes, etc. Is a Tumi shoulder bag from Nordstroms or a 1 oz. bottle of perfume really worth $800 when I can buy a similar looking and functionally equivalent item for 1/10 the price at Macy's, or 1/100 the price at Target? Is a diamond earring really worth what it costs? We all know the markups on such products can match the most extreme ones found in audio, yet nobody spends time posting about how outrageous they are. They just buy whatever they're comfortable with and have done with it. I still believe there's something special about audio that brings out emotional responses like few other subjects.

That said, products should indeed work as designed and advertised, particularly premium-priced products. No quarrel there and you've every right to bring it up for discussion. Fremer may in fact have buried the Anna by divulging the problems he had. Perhaps that was his intent, to damn with faint praise. If so, it was artfully done. Ortofon may pay a price in lost sales for their apparent clumsiness. One needn't always call a spade a spade to help people recognize what's being shovelled. ;-)

I do not nor have ever owned any Ortofon cartridge let alone the Anna model. At an MSRP of $8,500 it would be more expensive than any single component I have ever purchased. That plus the critical nature of the setup, very low output and high retip costs means I will never own an Anna. Besides, I'm a Benz-Micro Ruby kind of guy.

Everybody has a right to express their opinion, but don't be surprised if someone else expresses an opinion about your opinion. You're outraged about the Anna's performance or lack thereof. Well I'm outraged about the level of your outrage. I think some of the comments here are way over the top. Particularly so if, like me, you are not in a position to judge the Anna's relative value.

One other point that deserves to be mentioned regarding the analogy of high end auto to high end audio (hmmm, only differing by 2 letters...coincidence???) is that there are generally accepted objective performance criteria for autos. Horsepower, torque, 0-60, 0-100, 100-0, skid pad G force. Subjective criteria also fairly well identified. Beauty, creature comfort, reliability. [Of course, NO ONE expects a high performance auto to rate high on reliability. But we do damn sure expect that when the dealership delivers it that it will start when asked and that the wheels will not fall off on the way home] W high perf. audio, we can measure some of the performance criteria (wow, flutter, certain kinds of distortion), cannot measure some, cannot agree on others (PRAT, "jump factor") and can agree that some are immune to measurement (ability to convey artist's intent...etc.) So I think that w such a subjective, potentially expensive, and emotionally involving past-time, people are more apt to have passionate disagreements. Also for whatever reason, with the large number of small manufacturers involved, it tends to be more "personal", and when it's personal, again, it has a tendency to become more emotional.

Also, not to be argumentative, but the folks who "tune" and race WRXs probably have no use for the guy who walks in, drops 180Gs on a Porsche 911 Turbo S and then blows them off at a stoplight.

Rant over. Doug, call me if you are still interested in talking about things swampy! Sorry for going OT, Acutusreus.

Onhwy61,

I read your comment in one of your post, "As an actual owner/user of the Anna I welcome your comments," to mean you owned an Anna. My bad.

You're outraged about the Anna's performance or lack thereof. Well I'm outraged about the level of your outrage. I think some of the comments here are way over the top. Particularly so if, like me, you are not in a position to judge the Anna's relative value.

I think you are misinterpreting what my original post was about. If not, we just might have to agree to disagree. I only commented on Fremer's experience while reviewing the Annas, not the performance of the product. I can't be outraged about the cartridge's performance since I've never heard it, and Fremer in the end gave it a stellar review. But as a vinylphile I was astounded (rage is definitely not what I felt, btw) reading the review. Astounded that it would take three units to finally get to a properly functioning unit and conduct a review of its actual performance, given its price and who was reviewing it. As a vinyphile with a passionate interest in anything analog-related, this to me is a perfect thing to bring up and discuss on an analog forum, regardless whether I currently own this cartridge. It either was a very odd and freaky set of circumstances or Ortofon has a problem that needs to be addressed. So yes, it should put a question mark on the Anna's value especially after Ortofon failed to address the issue in their comments, and we don't know why the problems occurred. That's why comments from actual owners are very useful in the discussion, and I certainly welcomed Mike's feedback. Why certain others chose to turn it into a personal criticism, I cannot answer.