Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?


I think we have.  I have seen many discussion on audio forums and how nasty they can become when you have people disagreeing. Seems like there are a lot more know it alls now. I been in 20 years and I can still learn.  But I also know I know quite a bit. Like cables can enhance the sound and higher end well designed gear can truly be ear candy special.  Is this just on audio forums or the internet period. 

calvinj

“ But I’m not going to trust someone in the internet who has not heard the difference it makes in my system that I listen to everyday.”

I would not expect you or anyone else to “take my word” on this or anything else. It’s not about “my word.” As for the difference your cables make in your system, I would not take your word or anyone else’s either. Verifiable facts are not built on anecdotal evidence. First we would have to actually measure the transfer function of your cables. *Your* cables may very well be audibly colored. If they are then they do indeed make a difference. Mine are not. The transfer function of my cables have no audible distortions. No one has to take anyone’s word. It’s all objectively testable. And no one has to test anything if they are satisfied with anecdotal evidence. 

“All cables are equal, but some cables are more equal than others.”

Actually they aren’t. Some cables, often “high end” ones do audibly color the sound. 
 

“In that case, how do you know if the cables are either transparent or color the sound?”

Fair question. One can look at the multitude of controlled listening tests that demonstrate it. One can look at bull tests and see or literally hear it. One can do their own controlled tests if they like. I have done a few of them. Some of which would have revealed *any* audible differences were there any to be heard.

Spell check strikes again. Null test not bull test. Although there was something serendipitous aboythat one

@scottwheel ,

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@calvinj 

I attempt to keep it simple, especially where stepping around adopting attitudes shown from myself, where the forming a evaluation without a direct experience is the intention. I avoid if possible any attitude that can relate to the following:   

  "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation."