the man wants to 'rock' and 'rock loud'. he's concerned khorns will not deliver the bass. they will of course. as far as 'ice picks' go, most of the rock shows i have attended(inside and outside) in the last 10 years have sounded pretty darn good. khorns also excel with jazz at low and high volume levels. look, at home i have listened to gradients, heresys,castles,jbls and advents now for several years, and find them all worthy of all types of music. when 'rockers' stop over they always want to hear my system with the heresys. for nearly three years i lived with a pair of belles and found them spectacular for pretty much everything except classical.as far as other non klipsch horn designs go, other than some vintage jbl products, i'm not a believer. richard lloyd, charles lloyd buck dharma, bb king, les mcann, the rolling stones, through duos or solos....i'll pass....strictly for acoustic-female-warble-lounge-jazz of the in-store demo variety. just to be fair, some rock shows i have gone to did sound like 'ice picks'. they can't all be pleasant. after all, it is rock and roll....