Get the thorens td 203 and put an audio technica at f-7 moving coil on the end of it. Then get the origin live gravity one record weight, done! A great set up, and with the money you save on turntable (on sale for $579/ebay/rutherford audio) you will be able to afford the above cartridge and record weight. Run all this into a tavish design tube phono preamp or the pro-ject tube box ds2 and be happy. The td 203 has a better tone arm than any of the others mentioned....place tt on a solid wall mounted turntable shelf for best isolation.