How can anyone afford this ?


I consider myself a dedicated audiophile. I am 36(which I am guessing is a little younger than the average here) and single. I have been interested in high-end audio since I saw my uncle's Mcintosh and Threshold equipment for the first time when I was 5.
Since joining the workforce and saving a little I have always been trying to put together a nice system on a budget. I do OK financially(I am a systems engineer) but I do live in NYC which may put some of this into perspective.
Over the last 6 months I have struggled to buy(all used on Agon) a pair of Dynaudio Audience 42s and a Threshold CAS2 amp, Chang CLS3200, and cables(I haven't gone out[I don't have a girfriend], purchased anything else and really haven't eaten too much to be able to afford these and it is still a real stretch). I am using the amp with a direct connection from my CD/DVD player(Cambridge Audo Azur 540D...slightly modified[op amps, PS caps, bypass caps] that I have had for almost 10 years). A fellow has a Threshold FET2 series II(to match with the CAS2) he is holding for me but that seems like a pipe dream at this point along with a turntable.
A few years ago the analogue bug hit me.
I had a setup consisting of an Audio Analogue Settanta integrated and a Nottingham Horizon SE turntable with a Rega RB300 tonearm with the Incognto rewire and structural mod. This was not an expensive kit by any stretch but for me it almost put me in the poor house. I had to sell the entire rig to pay my bills and it hurt.
It seems over the last 10 years or so I have not been able to keep a kit for more than 6 months before I had to sell it. Whenever I don't have a rig I am constantly scanning the online Ads lusting for the next bargain to set up a system and cannot even listen to music on a mass market rig(I have been spoiled).
Anyway, I guess my question is how can anyone normal afford this hobby? What type of money do you have to be making to be able to enjoy this hobby.....$100,000/year? $500,000/year? Do you need to be worth millions? $5,000 barely gets you in the door(some interconnects cost more) and you could possibly spend millions. I am not looking to put together a $10,000 system(not even close...and that is modest in this hobby) but if I wanted to I don't see it ever being financially possible. If I had a girlfriend or a family(hopefully someday) I would not event be able to think about this hobby with a good conscience. I guess I am wondering if all these people in this hobby are millionaires? I am close to selling my rig again to pay the bills(the amp needed repair/recap and that was $450). Any advice for an audiophile who lusts to put together a nice rig but can't afford it? Should I get out and save for 5 or 10 years and then try again? Maybe I am in the wrong hobby but it is more addicting that crack to me(and more expensive). Maybe I should be a crackhead instead...that might be the only thing to make me forget about it. Thoughts?
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And most people who live in Manhattan don't even bother with cars regardless of income. When they want to drive somewhere they just rent it.
But, hey, Acura is better then Honda Accord, and Lexus is better than Toyota. Both feel like bucket compared to most BMWs.
Hotmail, it is bad enough this thread has de-volved into nothing but a rant about the cost of living in NYC. Throwing in the political crap is just making things worse. It doesn't matter to me if you follow Chairman Mao or Barry Goldwater, but can we keep the topic somewhat on audio instead of politics? There are lots of other forums where everyone can argue politics. Audiogon is what we make it.
Everyone is different. Some people have children and big expenses, but also have correspondingly big incomes. Ordinary middle class people like myself look forward to tax refunds, other unexpected windfalls, and birthday and Christmas gifts. Also, selling old equipment to finance new stuff. I also buy 90% of my stuff used.
Yup, this thread violates the sanctity of at least two of the four topics one ought not discuss in polite company: money, politics, religion and sex. It's all BS and opens a nasty can of worms...
Ironically, audio discussion are very similar to duscussion that happen on relligious forums. Nobody ever convinces anyone of an alternate view and there's not way to tangibly prove who's right or wrong or if there's even a distinction. Audio costs lots of money and the marketing is often not much different than the lies spurted out by politicians. Finally, paying the retail prices of most high end audio gear is the equivalent of getting screwed so I'd propose that discussion about audio equipment is nothing more than a tasteful way of discussing money, politics, religion and sex...