Not from a guy in a white van! LOL! This guy was getting rid of all his equipments locally. He had some really expensive Audio Research tube preamp & amp so I didn't think he would pair them with imitations. He told me he had bought them second hand from a previous owner. I was kinda suspicious because these didn't have grills nor the holes to hold the grills. He even offer to take the midrange driver & tweeter to show me the inside. The drivers were all Scan Speak & the crossover did say "Proac". The finish was maple strangely similar to the DIY kits posted on the net. I think he got ripped off from the previous seller then which is kinda sad. He wanted $1300. The cabinets must have been knock offs then I believe. Anyway I trusted my instinct & did not buy. Just a good learning experience & as the say "let the buyer beware". Thanks guys...