Would it be possible for the primaries here, in what I find to be a "very interesting" debate! To attempt a simple step or two back to take a breath, reset and recompose??
I am sure you both realize the typically futile "rabbit hole" that some would inexplicably begin to journey "down" at this point. And I for one would really hope that it's digression into a purely |tit for tat|, type. Replete with name calling, all while "each is dreaming of", furiously yet efficiently, pulling tufts of the others hair out, thus ending this discussion with a "God-Mode Deletion", by the ('A 'Gon-Lords on high), would be very sad indeed.
"Whew"
And maybe someone has even noticed just how far "Theory" as some would so simply name it. Has come "Since 1978"!