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Integrated or Separates?

This is my new 2-channel system that will only have the basics: CD source, Pre/Amp and speakers. Speakers, so far, will be pre-owned Proac Response 2.5's. Speaker cable currently is Monster Reference Z2 with spades. Source will be a quality CD in the $1500-$2000 range (used GamuT, Naim, Cary, Arcam, etc.). IC's yet to be determined. For Pre/Amp, a couple local dealers are pushing integrated amps (i.e., Plinius 8200 MK2) as the solution unless, in one dealer's words, you're going to spend $6000 on the Pre/Amp combo. My budget is only $2000-2500 for Pre/Amp new or used. Do you agree that a "quality" integrated makes sense for this system and budget? If not, what would you suggest? Music is jazz, classical, soft rock and voice. Room is 15'x17'x8' and open on two sides (living room). Thanks so much for your thoughts.
horn_blower
horn_blower OP
12 posts
 
S7horton,
Thanks for your reply. Do you have any specific models in mind from YBA, Sim Audio or Musical Fidelity? With the feedback so far I'm more encouraged about the integrated option.

Regards,
rbstehno
1,431 posts
 
listen to a mcintosh ma6500 integrated. very nice. can pick up a used one for around $2000. I used to own one but went to seperates.
cellorover
417 posts
 
The integrated route is probably the better path to follow, unless you go after a really good an amp (new or used)and a passive device since you only have one source. I am doing this.

Options on this level or numerous, but cost effective and good sounding are used McCormack amp and pre, Pass Alpha 30.

As for integrateds, Plinius is excellent. Also look at Consonance, Blue Circle, Conrad Johnson and Pathos.

You may find that you will need to change your speaker wires too.
horn_blower OP
12 posts
 
Cellorover,

Thank you for your reply. Now let's get to the bottom of your statement
"You may find that you will need to change your speaker wires too."
Are these speaker cables, shall we say, sub-par? I can't justify spending $1,000 on spreaker cables, but maybe one doen't have too? Ayway, started with the Monster Ref Z2 but would appreciate any suggestions for reasonably priced substitutes that provide a sonic improvement worthy of the investment. Thank you for your help.

Regards,
viggen
838 posts
 
Definitely give the CA50 a try or get a VT50 and a cd with volume control.
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