Is analog & vinyl anoying? Is it worht it.


Yeah it may be better than digital. But come on. 3K+ for a cartridge. Cleaning machines. Preamps. VTA adjustments. noisy records. expensive software. By the time you get it all set up you are ready to just turn on the tv and watch Sportscenter. Is there any alternative?
gregadd
Chadnliz you are missing my point. For a normal abled person, listening to vinyl has a very small amount of effort over CD – clamp LP, dry brush the LP, the queue the arm, lower the arm, walk back to chair. Somebody that will consciously accept lower quality sound to eliminate this very minor effort, is simply not serious about music.

Each person has limits to the amount of time, effort and money they can spend on something they are passionate about. If you have mobility problems and either totally unable to adjust, or have great difficulty at adjusting a non-remote preamp, it makes no sense not having a remote.

For a normal able bodied person, you are not serious about music if you purposefully get an inferior preamp instead of a superior one for no reason other than convenience of a remote. However, if all things are equal, then I'd get the one with remote without question.

I normally build my own gear. A remote attenuator cost about $500. I can buy better sounding manual stepped attenuator for $100. Which do I buy? $400 can buy some very nice capacitors. Hence, no remotes near my system ... The small inconvenience of the manual unit is worth the better sound.

Regards
Paul
+++ So long as we are really only talking about which format can produce the highest quality sound we have nothing to argue about. +++

Newbee, that isn't the topic of the thread. Superiority of vinyl was accepted but rejected as a medium because of inconvenience.

+++ For me, that is all audio is really about, giving us pale but often satisfying sonic images of what a live performance might be like if we could attend. +++

My, that is sad. I don't claim my system can produce an identical reproduction of the real thing, but it sure gets me 'there'. Not pale at all.

+++ Do post about music. The one thing this hobby really needs is an infusion of enthusiasm for music, especially jazz and classical. +++

The best live performances I have attended has been in my own home as an audience of one. And that is not something I care to share.

Regards
Paul
"Newbee, that isn't the topic of the thread. Superiority of vinyl was accepted but rejected as a medium because of inconvenience."

I have not rejected vinyl. Just wondered if it is worth it. Obviously some think it is, some don't. This isn't little league where eveyone gets to play. Somebody has to be right, somebody wrong. You can buy a ticket to whatever show you like.
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Gregadd, So long as I can still be considered one who loves music, if I had to choose one format it would be vinyl. But I would never have voted nor even participated but for Pauly's voting me and others like me out of the 'music lovers' club because we did not worship analog sufficiently for him.

Ironically though I recently put away my vinyl system (Oracle/Benz/ARC SP10) because the majority of music I wanted to hear was on CD's and not on LP. My LP's were culled down to less than 400 keepables, most of which were kept for 'reference' and nostalgia, and my CD's well over 5000. My interest in new music didn't stop when they stopped recording in analog. Just didn't have room any longer for both systems. The only thing that the two systems had in common was the speakers. And, FWIW, they both sounded pretty fine IMHO.

I voted! I'm committed! Everybody happy? :-)