Is it the tube pre or the rca/xlr adapter?


HELP! I've recently added a vk-50se, only my second tube component I have ever owned, and a Classe CA301 to my system. Speakers are Aerial 10T's. I am feeding the signal from my 834P with XLO single ended cables plugging into rca/xlr adapters at the pre. It seems that I have lost some details in the music that were there with my old Rotel pre with the same phono setup. BTW, I really like what the bat did for the sound of CDs, but I would prefer to improve the sound from my LPs.

I have tried moving the pre-amp to its own spiked amp stand and it did not make much difference.

I am guessing there is about 100 hrs. on the bat based on what the previous owner told me and the hours I have put on it. The 301 has about 70 hrs on it.

Do you guys with more experience think that it could be the rca/xlr adapters holding the signal back or do things need to burn in some more or do I need to play with placement, etc?

TIA,

Dan
dan_ed
I don't know what the cartridge is, that you are using, but loading has a significant impact on Moving Coil cartridges. It may need a different load than the one that is selected on your BAT.

I hope you can get your cartridge leads fixed, so you can get back to your other problems.

Life does suck sometimes.
What tubes are inside the preamp? You are listening to the tubes as well as the preamp. Don't assume the preamp is performing its best.
The BAT adaptors are better than many others on the market but I found they degrade the sound in comparison to using balanced cables. The BAT pre also needs to warm up for at least a half hour before serious listening. You might want to burn in your system with that few hours it would probably sound better after some significant playing time.
Hope you solve your channel problem.

After you get that fixed, you need to break in your equipment, especialy the BAT stuff for another 300 hours. At least. This stuff takes a lifetime to break in. I had a VK30se & it took a long time and the change for me was significant.

Try calling BAT. They were very helpful with me.

Good luck.
Thanks for the suggestions! I do like the overall sound that I am getting. Cymbol rolls are crisp and you can really hear them ring. The LF is not what I am used to from a solid pre, but I don't need to hear the foundation vibrate. Imaging is much more pronounced and deeper now. Before my mishap last night I was trying to put my finger on just what it was that I wasn't hearing. I was listening to Aja and it seemed that most of the consonants weren't there. So I guess the detail I think I'm missing is in the mid-range frequencies. Based on some of your comments I'll give everything some more time to burn in. I haven't popped the hood and checked which tubes are installed. I assumed they are the BAT 6H30's since the unit is almost new. I will double check. I failed to mention before but I'm connecting the Classe with a 1M pair of Quattro Fils. Yeah, I have replaced the whole mid-section of my system all at once and now I realize that I probably should give it some time.

Twl, my TT is a MMF 7 and the previous owner mounted a Shure v15vxmr. I can't remember the specs right off hand but I think it matched well enough with the 834P's load. I checked some of Thorsten's posts on the Asylum and found that he recommended that the 834 drive 100KOhms or higher. The BAT input is right at 100K. What gets me is that this analog front end seemed very revealing on my old solid pre, that's what led to my first post. I do realize, however, that I am now trying to play at a much higher level quality wise with equipment that is not as forgiving if there are weak links in the system.

I have sent Roy an email about getting a new wiring harness. I don't know if that will solve the recurring channel loss problem, but it will sure solve the channel loss I have now!