Looking for really fine cables at really low price


I have been listening to excellent sounding Exemplar exception cables for the last several weeks. While my HFCables are better they are also much more expensive than the below $500 cables.

They offer an excellent sound stage, dynamics, and top to bottom quality sound. Not only are they inexpensive but they are very portable and easy to install.

I am not a dealer or investor in this company.
tbg

Hi ,

I have ordered WE14GA 150ft and about 40ft leftovers
WE16GA.

Now I have questions about what
is Jeff saying about soldering: Is there really benefit of not being soldered
wire, just crimping? And how about capacitor soldering ( like mine Duelunds )
Jeff as he prefers crimping? Have someone experience degradations from
soldering? And if yes what steps have you took to go from soldering the
capacitors to crimping connection between the Caps and cable ? WBT Copper Crimp Sleeve is the
best solution? Or to make more disassemble can I wrap the bare cable around the
copper wire from the capacitor and then use heat shrink wrap sleeve tube ?  

Should I clean
the wires from capacitors from solder , and how to do so ?!

slowikpl, I mostly prefer crimping with a hydraulic crimp tool to connect speaker wires to connectors but in the case of the WE wire, I wonder if a good solder joint, which would melt the tin coating, would provide a more direct connection with the copper base metal, compared to crimping over the tin.  I have a bi-wired set of speaker cables constructed with Cardas spades soldered with Cardas solder, and they sound great.  I suspect the wire gauge and configuration will have more to do with how they sound than whether you crimp or solder the connections.
I first built a speaker cable with WE 16ga. It sounded awesome, really awesome. Little rough around the edges and may be little less refined than my reference cable. But it had less than 20 hours on it. Given the report in this forum, it has still some way to go to open up completely.

But, I got my hands on some WE 10ga and hook that up tonight. It is oh so smooth and musical. However, sound is bit thicker and slow than I like to. Does WE 10ga used as speaker cable also improves with some burn in time? If so, what characteristics changes? I really want it to have some more sparkle like WE 16ga but still retain the deep bottom end and smoothness. 

My system is very transparent and I notice a clear difference between 16ga and 10ga sound. Please describe your experience with the 10ga burn in and how the character changes.

Does having 16ga as interconnect with the 10ga speaker cable makes the sound more balance?
radiohead99,
As the WE16ga nears 100 hours it will lose any rough edge and keep the smoothness and sparkle and become much more refined in my experience. It keeps improving after at is my experience. I am currently using WE10ga for power cords and WE14ga for power cords on transport/DAC. Best, Rob

I have lived with the WE power and speaker cables for awhile now, including switching them in and out of my system and comparing with various other cables I have, so I will share some observations.  On the face of things, I wouldn't have expected the WE wires to sound as good as they do, particularly for speaker cables.  In general, I do not care for the sound of plated wires, whether silver-plated or tinned, as with the WE wire, and I most often like solid-core wire over stranded.  Although they are cotton-covered, the dielectric is some sort of plastic that is under the cotton.  I believe the sonic advantage of the WE wires likely has to do with soft-annealing of the copper.    

I like the power cords so far.  The only configuration I am using is an unshielded 7awg twisted quad of the 10awg wires, cross-connected.  This is similar to the highly regarded TWL PC, which is a braided quad of the same wire.  A next project may be to make shielded PCs for my front end gear using the same WE 10awg wire, which comes as a twisted pair.  For that I will simply use the 10awg twisted pair as-is, with a shield and spaced away ground wire.  So far, I have used Furutech FI-11 copper plugs/iecs but I may reconsider and try FI-32(G) connectors for front end gear.

I also like the speaker cable.   I have tried the three main wire gauges, WE 10awg, 14awg and 16awg with my two different high'ish powered amplifiers I have (300 and 350wpc).  A bi-wire, double quad run with a quad of 16awg wires for MF/HF and a quad of 14awg wires for LF sounds quite good and IMO as good as a bi-wired (i.e., two runs) of the (two-wires twisted) 10awg wires.  Another project I am planning is to make a bi-wire set using a twisted pair of the 10awg wires for the MF/HF and a quad of the 10awg wires (aggregate 7awg) to the LF.  I may rethink and use a double quad of the 10awg wires, which would be 7awg to both the MF/HF terminals and to the LF terminals.

Regarding the sound of the WE wire used for speaker cables, even after significant burn-in, both in my system and on an Audiodharma Cable Cooker, I would say they are lacking just touch of refinement, compared to some other cables.  This is a small nuance and not necessarily a bad thing, considering some cables sort of unnaturally smooth things over.  I also find that they have a touch of midrange prominence although, overall, they are fairly even-handed across the board, with the exception of that small midrange focus.  So, IMO, the strengths are an even-handed presentation with a slight midrange focus that seems to enhance vocals and an overall natural/organic sound which is quite enjoyable.  In general, I find the larger the gauge, the better for high powered amplifiers but I am also not surprised a simple pair of the 16 awg size is reported as working well for the SET group.

The wires that I keep going back to over here are another set of DIY cables made from raw wire, using the Jupiter copper in cotton wire.  I am using a braided biwire set with multiple (8-each) 16awg wires for the LF and multiple (8-each) 18awg wires for the MF/HF.  This gives aggregate sizes of 10awg for the LF and 12awg for MF/HF.  Those Jupiter-wire cables seem to offer the same level of naturalness as the WE wire but with additional clarity, more bass punch and a very nice tonal quality.  They do not have the midrange focus that I hear with the WE wire but the mids are in no way recessed.  Overall, in my system, I think they are overall better than the WE wires, although the WE wires are fun to put back in occasionally.  They also beat several well-regarded manufactured wires I have here.