Loudness - Why has the industry stopped producing amplifiers with this feature any longer?


I listen to music at all times of the day and night (solid sleep eludes me the older I get).  My favorite times are when the family is gone and I can select the listening level, mostly moderate to higher volumes.  But the simply fact is I find myself listen at lower levels much more often then my preferred listening mode.

Piggybacking on a discussion regarding low level listening here on Audiogon, I'm posing the question:  Why has the majority of industry stopped producing amplifiers with this feature any longer?

I look forward to your input
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Yes, dusty, worn POTS and oxidized contacts on switches can be a problem. But that is why we have DeOxit ;-)
DeOxit has a dicey reputation in this regard. Its not exactly the best medicine if you are dealing with a part that has the resistive element on a phenelic substrate. In a nutshell its bad chemistry.

So people that are really concerned about longevity of such parts (usually collectors) use specialized vacuum cleaners to clean out the pots and see how they behave after that is done before resorting to control cleaners like DeOxit.  

Us designer types that like to make high performance circuits have different concerns. For example, I like tubes for preamp circuits and tubes tend to have some fairly high impedances that cause stray capacitances to roll off the top end. If you really want your circuit to have 3D depth and width, you have to eliminate phase shift; to do that you need bandwidth (2KHz-100KHz at a minimum; 200KHz is better). When you have a switch to bypass a tone stack you're asking for trouble in this regard. Usually the presence of a tone stack suggests two things- first that the speaker is bandwidth compromised and second that getting the sound stage right is secondary to the goals of the listener.


In high end audio, getting the system to sound like the musicians are playing in the room is a pretty serious endeavor. It is rendered impossible if a tone stack is involved. You might be able to get it sound like a good stereo, but sound like its real?- nope, won't do that.

Once I sorted this out and got competent equipment, I found that I never felt like I needed any tone controls. The key is 'competent equipment' but its also important to get the speaker placement right and have a good match between all the bits in the system.



I guess the new norm is its unnecessary. But I liked to experiment with them.
Ask yourself why you want loudness??  More volume, better bass??  I used to run XLR to get more gain and have landed to unbalanced with tubes to get all I was looking for.  Depends on what you want to get from an upgrade.
Yes back then that control used to be on all the receivers, for a little added punch.But I do feel the purists won out...or just wear headphones. 
Manufacturers that used Variable Loudness:
1.  Yamaha
2.  Denon
3.  Mitsubishi
4.  McIntosh
5.  Kyocera
6.  Nakamichi

Any others?