Piedpiper,you are correct about your experiences and thoughts on these products regardless of others and theirs.We all are equal in what we hear.I am guilty of assuming the worst as you say without having any investment in whats selling here.Its not my place to control your dealings or anybody else here.I sometimes get tired of unwanted pitches thru the media and elsewhere and was irrationally reacting when I should'nt have.I would bid you good luck in your ventures and be moving on,Bob