Audiozen with all respect you can't be more wrong. System sounded great for 3 weeks without tampering with it. Within the 2 minutes it took to flip cables around dynamics were reduced highs were still there but refined sparkle was gone. Preamp is filled with Jupiter copper foil and I know there sonic signature very well and all there attributes were gone within that 2 minutes period. This is not a Illusion I experienced it is fact. Im sorry but if you had a 1000 years experience I would still have to tell you wrong on this subject.
Moving cables around killed dynamics for days anyone else experience this?
I've been experimenting with different cables between components. Nothing sounds right since trying to improve sound with new mix of cables. There is no bass and boring, highs are okay but life is gone from system. So I flipped everything back the way it was still sound horrible. Ran everything 24/7 for a couple days still no go. Let it run a couple more days dynamics are back and bass is full big and has tone again and enjoyable to listen to. Can someone tell me why this happens. I've also moved just speaker cables around without unhooking them and seen this happen, I don't get it.
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@paulcreed - It sounds as though audiozenology’s time in the audio business, mirrors my own, though I may have had opportunity, to have designed more live venues. Something I did learn, in the over four decades spent professionally, in devotion to helping others better enjoy(or produce) their music(live or at home): While you can teach others how to listen more closely, no one/nothing can improve another’s aural acuity. Picture attempting to teach a person, blind from birth, the color red. The number of those involved in sound, encountered in those decades, that had absolutely no concept of sound quality, was an education. Of course; their opinions/biases were based on their own abilities and- the level on Dunning- Kruger Effect they embraced. No level of formal education(Degrees/certificates/certifications) can improves one’s hearing. Bottom line: TRUST YOUR EARS and your own experience/experiments! |
audiozenology And some of us, like douglas_schoeder and myself, have been involved in the setup, design, and testing, of 100’s of audio systems, or maybe analyzed high hundreds of variants of audio products during the R&D phase (or both), and back it up with a solid technical background, keep up to date on related topics including psychoacoustics and developments in understanding human hearing and processing, and engage a broad technical community. Maybe we have been doing that for decades. >>>>>I stopped reading right there. Was that wrong of me? 😛 |
The evidence does not support your position. Trained listeners of no particular experience or skill, other than no hearing defects, are better able to detect differences than untrained listeners and though they want to think they are, most audiophiles are not trained listeners. One of the more successful training methods is rapid A/B switching to illustrate differences, something many audiophiles refuse to participate in. In my experience, the people certain audiophiles make fun of, the ones you claim "can't hear", the "propeller heads", who have far more actual diverse experience with a variety of systems, not only can "hear", but understand far better what they are hearing and are much more likely to point out an issue if one exists. But feel free to keep believing what you want to believe. I know I am willing to test my claims day in and day out, but can others say the same? Something I did learn, in the over four decades spent professionally, in devotion to helping others better enjoy their music(live or at home): While you can teach others how to listen more closely, no one/nothing can improve another’s aural acuity. |
audiozenology"some of us, like douglas_schoeder and myself, have been involved in the setup, design, and testing, of 100’s of audio systems, or maybe analyzed high hundreds of variants of audio products during the R&D phase (or both), and back it up with" That does not matter so much in this group where many of us like to listen, assess, and evaluate for ourselves within our own Music Reproduction Systems rather than follow you’re pronouncements which seem to often be based on intuition derived after reading a wikipedia entry or other basic source and why you would discourage anyone from conducting their own such evaluation may be is attributed to you’re fear of again being corrected for any of the patently false, misleading, and misinformed claims you have made hear. I have lost count of the times I have come here to correct you and when that happens you often make this claim: " a troll is just a troll" because you seem unable to accept corrections to you’re incomplete, inaccurate, and ignorant grasps of even elemental theories. And yet that does not stop you from proclaiming with self-appointed authority: I am not "average", I am Superhuman!! My words have far more value than anyone else’s! I made that a link to the actual page to remind other’s hear of you’re expertness! You have allso claimed a "moral authority" to post hear and I'm not even sure what that is about! |
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