New sonus faber Cremona M version

Tda2200, I think you should consider yourself lucky; you know what you like & you'll save $$$ to boot. Also, newer does not always mean better when individual preferences are factored in. Enjoy!

My advice is spend all the time it takes to make sure that you make the absolut right decision , dont listen to enybody trust your own ears.

And take reviews with a kilo of salt, dynamic speaker drivers dont improve enormusly as years go by , the magic still lies in the crossover layout and crossover component kvality and have you combine it with the drivers.

The org cremona uses proberly the best drivers in the world namly the top of the line sacn speak revalator units, only moddified, the crossover is mundorf supreme wich is also proberly the the best crossover components in the world.
Just becaue the new one uses different units and cheaper crossover parts dossnet make it better only alot of people will by it because its NEW.

The org cremona is to cheap for what it dos, franco never was a sells man he toke the best there was at a given time and perfected it, as stated before i prefere the cremona over the amati homage.

And basicly the org cremona is also technicaly a better speak , do to the use of the better revelator drivers.
The tweeter in the cremona sounds better then the r2900 version wich is in the stradivari , but its problem is its cheaper there for it must be worse.
But rmember this unit was higly moddified and has littel to do with the stock vifa xt25.
I like it better becaue its much more silky and smooth, and less detaljd/analytical.

Luckily for us sonus faber placed the cremona under the homage series and gave it a cheaper look and finish and there for the price was set low.

Not my meaning to kick the dead horse here , but i whent back not to listen to the Cremona M again but buying some other stuff.

But listend to them again, and the sounded the same, and NOT to my likeing.
We tryed 3 different amps and frontends, some amps where monoamps costing 30.000 other where tube amps and different sources from mcintosh to primare to krell , and it all sounded pretty much the same.

I was completyly baffeld by this becaue the org cremona was so sensitiv to what the where driven with.

This telles me that you can not tweak the new cremona m to sound better

In my book the better the speaker the more different it will sound with what gear you drive it with.

Eny way its my personal findings others may disagree but take my advice do listend to both before buying

Tda,

now don't hold back...tell us how you really feel about the M's :) Are you saying, I should keep my "old" Cremona's .... I can assure you that the professional reviews are all going to say that the new M's are better than the old.

Hi pinkus

I really wanted to like the cremona M , and since its suppose to be easyer to install in smaller rooms i spend alot of time and efforts to test it to see if i could get them to sound in the same ballpark as the old.

But the did not, bass is good but rest has no similaritys to the orginal one, infact it was steril transperant and bright.

My dealer is very alternativ and his price for the new was the same as the orginal one so my option is not money dependent.

The org one is clearly suppirior to my ears, and ALOT more musical and much more coherd sounding.
And it has that magic with voices.

Some may say hey it has to be better since its a newer design.

But remember this the new one was designed by a completly new team , infact i may be that teams first try out , and franco serblin had nothing to do with it.
Secondly it was created over a pretty short time maybe 5 month at best.

Franco gave the old one 3 years.

Secondly the orgnial one used the best drivers, and uses top kvality mundorf suprem crossover components wich the new one dos not from what i have been told.

The new one is clearly a make money speaker,
the org one was franco doing what he dos best making emotional sounding speakers using whatever was best at that time. and then left other to decide have much it shall cost.

If you look at the grand piano and compare it to the cremona it seems that the price increasse it purly component cost.
Thst as freaking miracle in audio.

If you like the sound of your cremonas keep them.

Take it from me the price of the M was the same for the orginal one through my dealer and i fullhardly chose the org one.

regards