No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need


It goes back to cable manufaturars, mostly provide no relevant data! to sales and the users. None will answer this!
Whay do you think that you own now the optimal cable to your setup?
I think I've figured it out. 


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But we have been enlightened grannyring. The measurements have been made and need to be adhered to for the best sound, that's it. There can be no more improvements. Bottom line, don't listen to your ears, listen to those measurements. What a crock ...  

If you braid 12 x Duelund 12-gauge wires together, you get an effective gauge of 1 awg.

I may hire a specialized hair stylist to do the job.

Mr.  grannyring
For the  3x0 AWG  suggestion: My suggestion was for 3 AWG at 8'.
You require 20'. That increases the cable resistance by 3 and if you go to the guage table it calls for a 3 times 0 AWG to keep it the same as a 3 AWG of 8' long.
That's Ohms law. I only use it for this suggestion.

Regaring Mr. Dill's remark of what he can hear, no one's ears can replace measurment instrumentations nor engineering calculation. Whatever you like it or not, Audio precision, HP and more are still in business.
If ears would do, we would not need them. What you can hear?
As you had tried in a blind test listening to all cables from 14 AWG to the 4x0 AWG and your ears pointed towerd a 12 AWG 99.9% pure cooper with cryo and burn in...?
Now you can hire this service, as the standard listening to IEEE.
If 10 people listened live to leaves rustling on a brisk fall day, would all 10 report the same sounds? Would they all pickup the faint sound of a wind chime in the distance? Could they all hear the same birds chirping?

I say they would all have similar, but different listening experiences based on focusing on individual things. One may focus in on a bird chirp because they are familiar with that species, another might dismiss that as noise and focus on something else. Do you see where I am going with this?

How do you measure that? Music has the same effect on the ears, people hear different things, they focus on different aspects. How do you measure that?

Measurements are only a small part of the whole system and listeners that have experimented with all that has been mentioned in this thread, like to use all the different types of cables & tweaks to create the sound they prefer. You are not going to change anyone’s minds here. Your argument has been around for decades and ad nauseam on these type of forums.

One can’t listen to cables. I listen to my system with different cables as they do or don’t sound right to me. Cables have no sound, they only contribute to the system’s over all sound, good or bad.
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