No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need

I went with Van Dam cable as that’s offered by Mark Grant Cables, a well known and well respected cable maker (in the UK at least).

its also the cables they use in Abbey Road studios, who also happen to use classe amps and B&W speakers.

when I got the amp I spoke with Classe about the best implementation (bi-wire, bi-amp, cables, etc) and their response was: single channel on the amp for each speaker, balanced cables on longer runs, and the van damme cable would be fine.

finally, there’s plenty of user reviews comparing VDB to audioquest, chord etc, some preferring the VD and some not.

Either way, b4icu said he’d recommend a cable that would give me an improvement. I tried it, it did. I don’t see the problem.

And now he’s two for two.

The amount you use is determined by the Cardas triangle.  The connectors will determine the AWG of the cable it can accommodate.

Mr. conradnash

Thanks.

Here is the excell of this subject as so far two had acomplished their cables and shared their impressions:

imgur.com/a/dPO2o1p (add the http...when use the URL)

Both spent under $60.- and ended up with a nice VFM. You know this market. What else would upgrade your sound by that much for $60.-?

If you would like to change the level of satisfaction, please tell me what your score is.

For the rest, who haven’t yet got to the finish line, please enter your sharing in the same format as Mr. conradnash did. Thanks.

Thanks, I reviewed.

It looks good for me in terms of score.

I replaced like for like in terms of length (so 2 x 2.5m was replaced with 2 x 2.5m). The cost of the new cables was £130 ($170) for a stereo pair of 5 m.

b4icu OP
Mr. geoffkait

What a story over nothing.

Your first par. refers to the burn-in (BI) process without calling it by that specific name.

Burn in to a cooper cables!

I’ll ask you again (asked you already on the BI thread, you avoid from answering with your perfect manners):

What is a burn in?

How long does it takes?

When is it required and why?

Your second par. You do a statement, as you are the absolute authority to define what cable is hi-fi, hi-end or extra-hi-end, and what cable is not (trash cable). You are actually bringing here the lord’s word on cables grading. You are the messenger. If you would understand the original old testimony it its original language (Hebrew) you would know that the miss translated word "Angle" to English is "Messenger" in Hebrew. From your extensive postings on my thread and other’s threads, you are none of the two for sure.

Just kindly remind you, that cooper as an element has fixed (k) conductivity (ρ). It is 1.68x10-8. Or 1.59x10-8 for Silver and it is only 5.3% better than cooper (I know this will make your day…).

A wire (cable) has a resistance (R cable) that is: R = ρ x L/S

L is the lengths in meters and S is the cross section in mm^2

I assume that your judgmental approach is based on the cables isolator look, the color and a scale of reputation given by the firm that you are doing all this for.

Your Third par. You go into some lyrics about the sound. The sound of music…That is fascinating observation, that all the sudden you can tell what someone’s system sound’s, in someone’s room you never heard with any cable, of what it sounds like now with a blue colored thick cable, in incredible detail.

I’m impressed Mr. geoffkait from your lyrics, but I don’t like the tune, the rendition. You’ve got my attention and I got suspicious. For the amount of time and effort you put into your crusade, you must have a motive and maybe a sponsor.

>>>>>A few comments. One, the numbers you give for copper and silver are actually their respective resistance, not conductivity. Thus, the resistance for copper is higher than for silver. From what I gather from the review of the Van Damm Blue cables they are very average in terms of sound quality. Almost ANY cable compared to them would seem fantastic. Lastly, I included the cable burn in comments by the reviewer to suggest that unless the Van Damm cables were properly burned in they would sound even worse than if they were.

Yes, I know the difference between crap sounding cables and high end cables. I doubt that you do, however.