No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need


It goes back to cable manufaturars, mostly provide no relevant data! to sales and the users. None will answer this!
Whay do you think that you own now the optimal cable to your setup?
I think I've figured it out. 


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conradnash
I went with Van Dam cable as that’s offered by Mark Grant Cables, a well known and well respected cable maker (in the UK at least).

its also the cables they use in Abbey Road studios, who also happen to use classe amps and B&W speakers.

>>>>One can only hope Abbey Road studios doesn’t employ Van Damme Blue cables in the recording chain. 😀 One can’t help wondering if Abbey Road is cognizant of cable burn in. Probably not. Nevermind.

Mr. geoffkait

What is between resistance and conductivity?

Yes, silver is by 5.4% better than cooper. But the cost...Mr. geoffkait, the cost. Is 94 times higher. You can add 6% to the cross section and save the cost of silver.

For the rest, as you are not responding to my questions, I'll take the liberty to do the same.

 

I'll do answer myself regarding Burn In (BI)

In the military and airborne industry, regarding reliability the attitude is serious. As so, they came out with MIL-STD-785B, MILITARY STANDARD: RELIABILITY PROGRAM FOR SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCTION and  MIL-HDBK-217F, MILITARY HANDBOOK: RELIABILITY PREDICTION OF ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.

The theory (I'll save you from reading all of it), is that a LRU (line replaceable unit) has a life cycle and a life span. Most of its failures accrue during its childhood and at the end of its days. A BI process (mandatory!) is done on each unit (100% of all batches), in which the units are entered into a temperature chamber that has a bottom vibration plate for 10 cycles. Those cycles are calculated as the MIL STD requires, and their cycle's length and durations are set. By the end of this BI process, the LRU is over its childhood and starts its failure free life cycle.

At the same time the BI also surface craftsmanship and components with poor margins. At an event of a failure, an analysis is conducted and the data is accumulated. Pattern failures will surface engineering or reliability issues if any. During the process, the LRU is turned off at extreme cold (-54 Deg. C) and turned on at -40C. After some time at -40, it will climb to +55 or +70C for a longer period of time. During all that the LRU is "ON" and runs a BI test loop.

So how is that relevant to a speaker cable? As the LRU is not performing any better at the end of the BI process, nether is a cable. BI is not about performance. It is about reliability.

No one, even in the military and airborne industry ever do reliability predictions or reliability verification for single wire. Also the MIL STDs don't require it (it is required only for: SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT and ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, as the MIL STD specifies).

The swindler part of the audio industry and sales borrowed this say to get things working for them. When a guy gets an expensive cable or is demonstrated with one, to be convinced to buy it, and the impression from hearing cession, doesn't cut the deal, The BI comes to their help. It will buy them time to send a full customer home with that item, waist its time (as really nothing changes in the physical level, it remains the same cooper wire with the same properties as before the BI), and the deal is sealed. Don't be full and don't fall into this scheme. Another way to call it, is a full's story over a bad product. An excellent deal for the sales man, but not a good deal for you. Never buy the BI story. Don't be full.


For your info, b4icu, I’m not one of those runny nose, naive, gullible teenagers you’re trying so hard to protect. As far as the relative costs of silver and copper cables your facts seem to be as screwy as always. Maybe your calculator is broken, who knows? As far as MIL Standards go, they are irrelevant to the discussion and can be ignored. But you get an A for name dropping.
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The cables prices do not reflect the elements prices of the crud market. You know and all know that they are price is irrelevant of the material cost they are made of. You have a tendency to twist everything in your favor, regardless of what the truth is. It may show who you are and what your priorities are. Still, none have to do with my thread. So far the prove of two dear members who posted their share is on my side. I have one more of a friend from Vancouver BC. (Was posted at an early stage of this thread). More will follow soon. What is it you have on your side? Pickles (sour) posts. The Burn was your issue. You brought it up. I condemned it from the beginning. It is mostly relevant to equipment and systems never over a wire. Your support over the other thread on the subject is clear. You also hold about 50% of the 756 posts of that thread, even thou it's not yours.