No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need


It goes back to cable manufaturars, mostly provide no relevant data! to sales and the users. None will answer this!
Whay do you think that you own now the optimal cable to your setup?
I think I've figured it out. 


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Whom are you representing? Most cable manufacturers have no idea what they are doing. They spread the message of unproved crap: Directionality, copper purity, cryo treatment, or burn in. Some even add some box with passive components on the cable.

I had this Sun. a job interview at RAFAEL. They asked for a phenomena of a system they showed me the schematics,  that got a problem of oscillating and under voltage. I asked for the distance from the power supply and how thick were the wires? I nailed it. It was way less than 160 ft. Your 160 ft cable shows that you have no idea what a speaker's cable roll in a sound system. However, you do sound as the average ignorant Joe that sales them.

b4icu - I’m not accusing you of lying. I’m accusing you of being misinformed. It’s not your fault. You don’t know what you don’t know. It’s no big deal.

Thanks Mr. geoffkait. I am so relived.

On the other hand, I wrote that you are from the cables industry and you never denied.

So, that’s an admit!

It's nothing wrong with being one of them, as long as you state it with your name, for all to know, but you don't! That’s wrong. It is obvious you are caring their message and care for them.

They have no idea about speaker cables. They provide cables to all, without having any knowledge of what is the cable each of us need. No calculations, no science, no engineering, nada. Only urban myths they created to cover their unfortunate ignorance. This is about "your" truth.

As you stated, in your own words, the rest are lies and you are a king of lies.

Look at those who already made the recommended cables. They spent money before on cables that didn't deliver. Some shared of many thousands spent and not being happy with the result! Now, at first attempts, with my help – it is on spot!

It would make more sense if the cable industry would be able to do so and not a b4icu guy from Israel, first time on this forum. Unfortunately, the cables industry been established a reality you try to protect and support, that is taking advantage of the audio clients. As you are part of that industry, it is clear and understood from where your endless effort and perseverance is coming from.

 

 

B4icu, I am trying to learn about cables, including yours. I have virtually no knowledge of cable technology at all, and have been reading on this subject for only a few days now, including your post. So let me ask you what is hopefully not a stupid question about your DIY speaker cables to follow up on the information you provided to me up-thread on how to fabricate them for my new system.

Do you think your DIY cables would be comparable in performance to some of the more reputable cable brands that cost $1000, or more for a pair of 2-3 meter lengths, or would your’s be most modest in aspiration?. I am shocked at these high prices and would love to find a reasonably priced alternative that would provide the same performance quality as the expensive ones. The purpose being to allow the best possible performance of my new Magico A3’s when they arrive.

Thank you for your advice. I am not trying to put you on the spot or be rude, only to try to learn, so I can make a good decisions on cable purchases. Thank you for considering my question.

Mike




Mr. skyscraper (Mike)

Speaker cables are wires to connect between your speakers and amplifier. They should be of a specific resistance that mostly depends on the Amplifiers and speakers specifications and the required length. Unfortunately, no cable maker is kind enough to tell you what right cable is for you, using an engineering method. They mostly tell you of some properties, like directional wire, cryo treatment, burn in process and more. All this has nothing to do with the subject but an elegant excuse to charge a lot for it.

As for my method (calculated) cables, some are getting really thick. Cable brands charge for that kind of cables (0 AWG and thicker) an arm and a leg. This is why it is best to keep those cables as short as possible. Sometimes two mono blocks would cost you less than a set of long and thick speaker cable. For every time you double the length of a cable, you need to double its cross section too.

DIY is up to you. Find your materials, put them together by yourself and you are ready to go. Some who did it here ended up under $60 for a set. Do they look as nice as a readymade cable that you buy? No. Do they do the job? Yes. VFM: excellent and beyond!

By reading their sharing, they absolutely do. It was on spot from the first try. One guy already spent in the past as much as $2,000 on a single cable, and way more on multiple cables and none was as good as the one he made by my recommendation. His sharing is absolutely amazing.

Not all have the skills or are handy to get along with such a project. It is not easy to work with thick cables. When you need cables thicker than 0 AWG, as 2x 0 AWG or 4x 0AWG, no one I know about, can do that. I can. I developed a way of getting there…It involves ordering special made CNC parts of cooper bars and more.

Tell me what equipment you have and I can calculate for you the cable that would serve you best.