Old days & steamers vs newer stuff?


Given that there are a ton of variables depending on speakers and other equipment. What are the generalities in comparing? something like...

1) an old blusound node 2i with an ayre codex dac

2) lumin d2 for dac & streamer

3) node 2i with giselli labs dac

Basically,  I'm asking if you think expensive old dac and streamers (lumen, node, ayre codex) still beat out the newer cheaper stuff like denafrips ares, gishelli labs, etc.

I want to improve my setup, but I'm not sure if used older higher end stuff is better than newer mid end stuff.

Quality improvements over time can often yield a newer less expensive product that is superior to older high end items.

Whatcha think in this regard when it comes to dacs and streamers?

Newest tech one can afford, or highest end used stuff one can find?

128x128labguy

@nd1der

I have my streamer connected to a DAC. You use the optical/spdif out from the ML Unison to the input of your DAC. Once everything is hooked up THEN run ARC and you are all set. See page 8-9 of the manual. Anything you connect to the Unison inputs (RCA or optical in) will be passed through to your DAC and get the benefit of the ARC room correction. For example you could connect a turntable to the RCA in and a CDP to the optical in and they all will pass through to your DAC if you want via optical out OR you can use the RCA out to your preamp. No matter how you connect it everything will benefit from ARC, Just remember, you have to run ARC after connecting your DAC. That review/article is from 2018, both ARC and Play-Fi have had many software updates since then:

https://www.martinlogan.com/uploads/documents/manuals/manual-unison.pdf

 

One more thing, DTS Play-Fi whole house audio is da bomb. There have been many updates to the app since it first came out. I have products from Klipsch, Paradigm, Deftech, Martin Logan and Philips throughout the house. Most of them were purchased on sale like the Unison. If you are going to add additional rooms to your system let me know and I'll post some updates. 

@labguy

I saw you are leaning between the unison and the forte. If you get both you can use the unison with your yamaha amp and the forte in another room with a separate pair of speakers. Play-fi is designed similar to Sonos so you can use whole house. I own the Forte amp too and it sounds like Martin Logan speakers, HUGE soundstage. Here is my review:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/martin-logan-forte-amp-review

@kota1 will spotify on my phone allow me to diectly connect to the unison like it's a wifi device/speaker, or do I have to use dts play fi to hear spotify on the unison?