Thanks @pindac @noromance but I specifically want the mats I specified because I have a JVC ql10/ tt101 . JVC made a pigskin mat and they are either unobtainable or silly priced - almost as much as the deck
@halcro is a seasoned JVC user having tried all sorts of mats and he has given that recommendation- others such as @lewm too.
trust me I have considered many options and have settled on those specific options