Pigskin or jico leather mat


Does anyone here know where to buy a new pigskin or jico leather mat? I can’t seem to find a retailer- I am uk based

lohanimal

@lohanimal 

Halcro uses the pigskin mat in conjunction with the Victor Glass mat.

The Jico pigskin was a limited run some years ago.

The key is the thickness - the Victor and Jico are much thinner than most leather mats.

Best place to find the Vitor mat is on Yahoo Japan - they usually sell for around $50USD and come up from time to time. Topclassaudio has an original  Victor Glass mat and pigskin leather mat set for sale currently.

A friend based in the UK has produced their own CNC cut Leather Mats in 1.3mm thick leather.

Is there a specific diameter that is needed?

Just not true. This again is where intuitive/rational/objective/measurement based talk diverges from something called "listening". A platter pad with the same durometer as vinyl (is there such a thing as "the vinyl"?) may sound best with one turntable/arm/cartridge combination while a copper, cf, or bare aluminum (as Harry Weisfeld advocated for years with his turntables) may sound best with others.

@fsonicsmith FWIW, when I first heard a proper platter pad designed around the points I previously mentioned, measurements didn’t come into it for many years- it was all about the listening as you say! To your point: every turntable we tried the mat on sounded better than every turntable that didn’t have the mat; it was making a bigger difference than the cartridge, arm or turntable itself! IMO its a real shame its not made any more! The designer (Warren Gehl of ARC who spent many years designing it) of the mat once told me that the hardness of the mat is a key factor. This suggests that one could make a reasonably good mat if it were simply pressed of vinyl and otherwise had materials embedded (as his mat did) that also provided damping properties.

@lohanimal 

Size of a 12 inch record I guess 😂 who are they

Really - you will probably need to buy one that comes with a free pair of scissors then. Might pay to check before you spend your money.

The Victor glass mat is 289mm.

Most LP records are 300mm.