Planars/ Electrostats benefits over box speakers?

Integration of the bass drivers with the Stat panels is the most difficult process manufactures face.The Australian Whise HA1500/Nakamichi Dragon is the only affordable (under $20k) Stat that I have heard that has integrated this well.

Fully active with separate 100 watt class A/B Power Amps for each of the Panels and Bass drivers they produce a seamless musical experience with massive soundstage.

I have heard many very high qualty dynamic floorstanders, but none (up to $25k) have reproduced the same seamless overall quality of the Whise HA1500.

Unfortunately it is difficult to find as there are only around 170 pair in captivity.

Zd542. I sense your frustration. No worries. There are alot of us here on agon with great systems that are set up properly that can guide you along your journey to better sound. Remember, those speakers frame the sound stage. The sounds comes from between them and along side them, but not from them. Feel free to PM me. I enjoy helping those less fortunate than myself.

Happy Listening!

I'm not falling into your trap Cerrot. lol. You know I use time and phase correct speakers. And I know what you do to them. My Vandersteen's are not going to be the victims like those poor Thiels were. Better luck next time, and happy listening to you too.

Cerrot...." (and don't forget phase - can't believe how many systems are out of phase)".

I'm not sure what music you listen to, But for me PHASE is laughable. Because all the vinyl I listen too was recorded back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's do you think everything was recorded in the same phase?? It wasn't, I assure you! Phase means nothing, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it that's for sure.

"I'm not sure what music you listen to, But for me PHASE is laughable. Because all the vinyl I listen too was recorded back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's do you think everything was recorded in the same phase?? It wasn't, I assure you! Phase means nothing, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it that's for sure."

There are different ways that a system can be in or out of phase. What you're talking about is absolute phase. The effect is usually small and very difficult to hear. Also, its worth noting that recordings are still not consistent when it comes to phase. The same thing is still going on today, and that's why you see so many preamps and sources with a phase invert switch.

Absolute phase is not the same as phase correct speakers, like my Vandersteens (Or the Thiel's that Cerrot and his friends destroyed). With phase correct speakers, all of the drivers move back and forth at the same time. The effect is much more audible. You can also have a situation where one speaker is out of phase with the other. (The entire speaker as a whole, and not just the drivers.). The effect is huge and is almost always due to someone connecting the speaker cables in error. If your speakers sound like Bose, this is probably why.