Jea48...Some driver manufacturers (JBL for example) use the oposite polarity definition (cone pulls in).
Polarity mystery: Can you help me solve it?
THE BACKGROUND: My speakers are Focal 1007be. They have a Linkwitz-Riley crossover with a 36 dB per octave slope. Because of that, the two drivers are wired with opposite polarity: the woofers are positive, the tweeters are negative.
WHAT I DID: At the advice of a friend with the same speakers, I inverted the polarity of the drivers, by simply reversing the red and black speaker wire leads to the terminals of both speakers, so that the speakers are still in phase with each other, but now the woofers are negative polarity and the tweeters are positive polarity.
WHAT HAPPENED: To my surprise, the sound improved! Specifically, image focus improved. The improvement can't be attributed to the preservation of the absolute phase of the recording, since the improvement was the same for many different recordings (some of which, presumably, preserve absolute phase, while others do not). And the improvement can't be attributed to the speakers being wired incorrectly at the factory, since the friend who suggested that I try this experiment owns the same speakers and experienced the exact same result. So I don't know what to attribute the improvement to.
Can anyone help with this mystery?
WHAT I DID: At the advice of a friend with the same speakers, I inverted the polarity of the drivers, by simply reversing the red and black speaker wire leads to the terminals of both speakers, so that the speakers are still in phase with each other, but now the woofers are negative polarity and the tweeters are positive polarity.
WHAT HAPPENED: To my surprise, the sound improved! Specifically, image focus improved. The improvement can't be attributed to the preservation of the absolute phase of the recording, since the improvement was the same for many different recordings (some of which, presumably, preserve absolute phase, while others do not). And the improvement can't be attributed to the speakers being wired incorrectly at the factory, since the friend who suggested that I try this experiment owns the same speakers and experienced the exact same result. So I don't know what to attribute the improvement to.
Can anyone help with this mystery?
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Some driver manufacturers (JBL for example) use the oposite polarity definition (cone pulls in).Eldartford, True..... My point was to verify the polarity was indeed reversed on the driver/s and with the test make sure both speaker box units are in phase with one another. http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/2661/29039/0#msg_29039 |
Thanks for the responses so far. Gregm - Yes, the soundstage does seem a little deeper. But the more obvious improvement is that images are more focused. Your theory that the improvement is attributable to a room interaction was my first thought, but I don't know exactly what acoustical effect would account for it. Any idea? Dopogue - I don't believe that the improvement is attributable to preserving the absolute phase of the recording, because the improvement is the same across a wide range of recordings. Jea48 - Thanks for describing that method of checking the drivers. The fact that the tweeters and woofers are wired with opposite polarity is confirmed in Stereophile's measurements of the Focal 1007be, and from what I understand, that is common practice with a Linkwitz-Riley crossover with a 36 dB slope, as described here. Also, I am positive the two speakers are in phase with each other, as I have used a test disc with in-phase/out-of-phase tracks to confirm it. Almarg - That is a very interesting theory, and certainly would never have occurred to me. In answer to your question, my friend with the same speakers does not have similar electronics. He is using an Ayre dac, a Vincent preamp, and a Parasound Halo amp. How would I know if my system had a DC offset? |
How would I know if my system had a DC offset?Hi Bryon, You would need a good multimeter, preferably a digital one that can measure dc voltage with a resolution adequate to read say a few millivolts (mv), or ten's of mv at most. You would power up the entire system, let it warm up for a few minutes, and set the multimeter to measure dc voltage. With no music playing you would then place the two leads of the multimeter between the red and black speaker terminals of one channel, or between the corresponding terminals on the amplifier. Repeat for the other channel. I don't particularly have a feel for what the upper limit of acceptability would be for the reading. Perhaps someone else reading this will. But I would feel fairly comfortable with a reading of say 60db below the voltage that, were it ac, would result in the 88db spl that your speakers are rated to produce, at 1 meter, in response to an ac input of 2.83 volts. 60db below 2.83 volts is 2.83 millivolts. Hope that helps, -- Al |
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