Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
A question for the OP, Teajay. Did you have room treatment as part of your system when you auditioned all of the DACs? Bass absorbers and mid to high freq reflection point absorbers? Also curious how big your room is, and how far out in to the room your Maggies are.

Thanks!

Bryan
Hi Bryan, here's the answers to your questions:

1)I do not use any room treatments except an Acoustic Revive wave generator tweek. My house is a post and beam home and was built to allow my MG-20's to really "sing" in this very large open space with the posts and beams being great to absorb/reflect the sound.

2) The acoustic space that my system projects into is 40 feet wide, about 60 feet long and the height of the totally open ceiling is about 30 feet.

3) The MG-20's are six feet off the front wall, have no side wall reflections and I sit about 12 feet away with no back wall for another 15 feet.
Wow, that is a huge room and very high ceiling. And minimal reflective issues I would imagine. Sounds like a great room for the big Maggies.
Simply put, Burmester 069 or 089 CDP/DAC/PRE. In my estimation, they are at the very, very top. All the sonic virtues of tubes and all the sonic virtues of ss. And I mean that in a very humble and forthright manner.
Teajay,
I had the Accustic Arts DAC 1, Mk IV, but replaced it with the Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC. Although the AA DAC is very good, to my ear the BAD Alpha DAC is the biggest leap forward in audio that I have heard in over 30 years in this hobby. It also has a remote volume control so you can go direct to your amp and eliminate the preamp -- improves the sound no matter how good your preamp is.
Now I am looking for a possible upgrade to my AA Drive 1. Would be interested in any suggestions you or others might have. I listen only to classical and violins are the ballgame: the key to me is resolving the problem of aggressive or bright or over analytical or too forward highs. I would want to avoid any transport that would exacerbate that basic problem with redbook digital reproduction.