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Schiit not that Good?

Schiit was at AXPONA again this year. They were showing a Salk music server streaming into a Gungnir Multibit (?) feeding a Freya and two Vidars. Speakers were the Salk Song 3As.

 

So what happened?


Esoteric was just next door. This allowed attendees to move immediately from one room to another. Esoteric was showing a full stack of thier latest separates plus a VPI Avenger for analog. Speakers were a pair of Cantons I didn’t get the model of.

 

The Schiit room, while not bad, was completely destroyed by the Esoteric room. Esoteric played one SACD that unfurled a massive soundstage that I could sense even not being in the best seat. The sound of the Esoteric system, both via SACD and vinyl was dynamic, resolving, extremely musical, collected, vibrant, both large and delicately structured. It was a system that got all the minor details right. Such a good setup. The Schiit setup, while unoffensive, clean, and musical in its own right, simply couldn’t face the Esoteric in inner detail, soundstage, reality and low-level dynamics.

 

Why did the Schiit system fail so hard vs the Esoteric? Part of the reason might have been the junk cabling used by Schiit. Peaking behind the system I was Blue Jeans speaker cables and mess of power bricks, basic cabling, etc. I don’t know how much of the Schiit’s performance was compromised by inferior cabling, but I’m curious how close it would have come to the Esoteric had Schiit paid some basic attention to that area.


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trelja
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@mulveling actually, I wanted to apologize to you...

You made an excellent point on discussing gear in an open and honest manner, and I agree with your sentiments completely.  I see it's always season to criticize a handful of brands like Adcom, ARC, B&W, Rega, Wilson, etc.  I can enumerate myriad flaws and faults in every component I have ever bought.  Whenever I do so for my Cary, Dynaco, Jadis, Quad, Quicksilver, or Sony gear, it produces no blowback.  But we all know a lot of brands that bring people out of the woodwork with hatchets if anyone dare speak in anything but the most effusive terms.  And believe me, there are a lot of opinions I hold back on various companies simply because I'm no longer looking for the aggravation.

I'm absolutely for honest opinion, good and bad.  And I lament the emergence of the positive only publications, as they have come to represent paid advertising by the manufacturers in a pretty dirty game.

This thread simply became an outlier for me in terms of calling out a non-positive reaction due to the issue I raised in my first post
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astewart8944
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@trelja I commend you for the public apology. Thanks for setting a good example of treating others with respect. You have mine.
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uberwaltz
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It is very unfortunate that the OP is a legend in his own lunchtime as ,despite the obnoxious thread titles, there could be some meat to be worthy of discussion.
However fortunately the majority have seen way to much from the OP in the same vein to care to treat any further posts with serious respect.
The OP has made his bed and now finds he lies in it.
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georgehifi
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In my eyes he’s wrong with this thread Schiit is the best bang for buck there is as I explained in my last post. But he can get things right too below. There way too much voodoo in this industry.

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/synergistic-research-hft-s/post?postid=1539917#1539917

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/the-new-synergistic-research-blue-fuses/post?postid=1496468#1...



Cheers George
johnnyb53
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https://www.computeraudiophile.com/forums/topic/39108-schiit-embarrassed-at-axpona/

Soooo ... Is madavid0 also known as GUTB on the computeraudiophile.com forum, or did he copy and paste that post to stir up Schiit here?
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