Schroder sq and the new talea

Mark,

We see things that seem so elaborate, but it's the ones that appear to be so straightforward that appeal to me. It is like they are more honest. I suppose it is that aspect that defines us as audiophiles, and draws us to certain audio equipment designs, and even to certain music.

In a curious sort of way, it also biases us to a point that we fail to consider some of the alternatives out there. Maybe audio is less free thinking that we are willing to admit, but still, I try my best to find the silver lining in both the visions of others, and in various sorts of music.

Don't mind me, I'm willing to accept Pro Tools produced recordings and drum machines, if the artist is honest enough to present the work for what it is without apologizing for what it is not. All we can hope for in the end is a musical experience that is genuine, and one we can relate to. The best case is the best presentation of that performance inside our house. That sounds easy, right? Some would have us think so, but I'm not so sure.

Mosin, the most important (and true genius ) thing about "thinking outside the box" (in audio) is the ability to sell it (the mere thinking and its results...) to those inside the box.......
Its not the devil who is in the details but - according to Mies van der Rohe: "God lives in the detail".
True art is the result of craftsmanship combined with inspiration and (most important and mostly lacking) taste. And there are always only two options in taste - good and none.

The discriminated analog Enthusiast shouldn't be despaired, do your own comparison with the Originals: Well Tempered Arm /Triplanar.

Good point, Syntax. The Schroeder is son of Well-Tempered, and the Talea is son of Triplanar (as are Reed and Grandeeza).

Syntax & Lewn: this might be a silly/obvious question on my part but how do you guys know that Schroeder has its origins in the Well-Tempered tonearm & the Talea in the Triplanar??
Is it the mere looks that gives this information away? Any material I can read to educate myself?
I am interested in knowing more about both arms hence my question(s). Thanks.

In the elder days of Art,
Builders wrought with greatest care
Each minute and unseen part;
For the Gods see everywhere.
(Longfellow)

Granted that it was impossible to distinguish the effect of the tonearms in this comparison. But one thing was clear to me - the Talea setup outperformed the Schroder setup by a significant margin. Joel Durand played a piece by Ravel that floored me. He played it at concert volumes, which is to say, much less loud than what you normally hear out of a stereo reproduction. This is a huge challenge to stereo playback because we often compensate for lost detail by raising the volume.

The Ravel piece had three crescendos of very short duration. The rest of the piece ranged from rather quiet to extreme pianissimo. In this range I have never heard such dynamic nuance and tonal color coming from a stereo system. I have only heard that in a concert hall. Without these nuances the music is generic and dull. My perception was that the listeners in the room fidgeted quite a bit when the piece was played on the Schroder system - and for good reason. It could not deliver that level of detail. So the musical interest was lost.

Fascinating to hear the Talea setup in absolute terms, not just in comparison to the Schroder setup.