glubson, I went back to re-read the beginning of original post and you're correct there. What cockamamie thread is this anyway?? I suppose an analogy would be if you go out for a drive in a nice Porsche, you may never know where you'll end up. In regard's to your question, in the true nature of Porsche, there should only be room for two. In the evolution of the mark anything is now permissible. I'd very very satisfied with an old air-cooled car.