Shunyatas New CX series


I looked for the thread where someone inquired if anyone had heard the new Shunyata power cords, but it's gone. Hence, new thread.

In the last 3 weeks, I've purchased the Python CX and then again, I got a new baby -- Viper CX.
As I said in my other post, there's no distinction between Alpha and Helix lines. It's two (slap), two (slap) two cords in 1 (apologies to the old two-mints-in-one commercial).
As I also said before, I wasn't expecting to hear a noticeable difference. BUT. BUT. I did.
Already covered the lowering of grain so that a fine mist - or grain - in the soundfield, is gone. What was the Python.
Having had to endure the Viper CX that came in 10 minutes ago on an Arcam FMJ22 while awaiting the Antique Sound Labs Flora premap's arrival, I wasn't expecting much. Got it, though, and right off the bat. Now, you may say, well, it could sound "exciting" because it's cold. And in other circumstances, I might agree. But I've had every generation of Shunyatas and none, out of the box made me cock my head like a dog who hears something nobody else can hear.
Even on the Viper (and I prefer the more expensive cords because, lets face it, they put more into them), the dynamic jump was obvious, the grain lower and more fluid--just like the Python. Obviously, I'm not going to make up stories about how the soundfield expanded: it's 10 minutes old, dummy! Like I should know from that?!?!? Suffice it to say, for $700, it made me take noitce in a way that my older Python Helix Alpha and VX didn't themselves do, right out of the box. I use the lazy ear approach: pay zero attention and see if your attention is captured despite yourself. I'm not yet captured, but I'm sure snagged. I think Shunyata surpassed their old bugaboos: a slightly soft upper midrange and lower treble (those hits on triangles not only lacked punch, they lacked transient bite and, even more, shimmer). Can't tell about the shimmer now, but I'm taking the day off work. I'm snagged ENOUGH and that works for me. '
I'd recommend starting with a Viper, because I KNOW you'll hear it, and if you can hear it from the lower cords in the range, you can expect jumps from the higher ones. One Python and One Viper today: 2 more Pythons in a couple of weeks (there goes the summer vacation in Ibiza, but given the medical things happening, I'll just have to use my imagination when I'm listening to Chabrie that I'm in sunny Spain or on Ibiza. I think with these cords, I could fool myself [don't worry, I've have the fan on to simulate the breeze]).
Try these out guys. I'm using Ushers, and driven by ASL Hurricanes and the Cambridge Audio 840C with transparent interconnects/speaker cable. (yeah, yeah, stifle yourselves. I have Shunyata speaker cable and interconnects too, but this is what's in the system at the moment and I'm HIGHLY analytical. Never change a compoenent during a controlled experiment)

Oh, one more thing: the tonal quality of groups has improved in the new iteration of cords: brass are a LITTLE golden, strings silvery, and on Balalaika, I actually heard more of the body of the instrument, which is to say, instead of just strings, there's more texture, so it doesn't sound like it could just be a guitar. Quite a jump in the line's resolution, especially the low-level resolution...Maybe it's the midbass-to-lower midrange dynamics, which SEEM more powerful. OR maybe it's the fumes from that Rogaine I just put on my scalp ...
gbmcleod
Sherod:
One thing I need to correct is what I said about brass: I meant to say they are a LITTLE more golden, not "a LITTLE golden." Misspoke there.
And, MB, I think the jump in performance is obvious, but will be more so the more transparent the other equipment is. Some of my equipment is not the most transparent. At the moment, I'm using an Arcam FMJ22 integrated, hardly the last word in transparency. I think the more the equipment imposes itself on the signal, the less likely one will hear the improvement. I used to have a Versa Dynamics 2.3 turntable, but it was sold to me by a dealer who did not know how to set it up optimally. 2 years later, after I wrote a letter in TAS, the manufacturer and I had a talk and he claimed I "slammed" his turntable. I pointed out that I had said that it could be that mine was broken, because it didn't sound like what HP described. I sent it back, and Lo and Behold! It WAS broken. He fixed it, and returned it and I put in a Benz Micro MC3 cartridge (this was around 1992) and a friend came over and said, "THIS IS THE BENZ?!?!?!?! GOOD GOD, it sounds completely different." I said, "Yeah, not what it sounded like before at all, is it???" If our equipment has a major sonic signature, forget hearing the better component. This is one reason HP liked Nordost so much: although it turned out to be a lean-sounding component, it was wildly transparent and altered the signal almost not at all (except in tonal richness) and HP was able to hear the other equipment more easily through it.
The Taipan Helix and The Python Helix have different -- to me -- sounds. The Python has more colors of the rainbow. If your tube DAC is already saturated, as tubes can be (not a criticism: I have always owned tubes), then the Python may show you something you think is the Python's coloration, but may actually be your tube DAC's coloration, whereas the less saturated Taipan will make it sound more "neutral." It's not my experience that Taipan trumps Python at all, but I could see where system matching makes it seem that way.
I'm pretty confident the CX line has resolved the split between the VX and the Helix lines. The VX was always used on digital, and the sonic signature of most digital was "hard" sounding, but I think the VX softened the sound -- at least that's what I heard in the two generations of VX cabling (Python and then Python Helix). There's no question that triangles and the Balalaika have more "bite" without sounding hard. I'm a big fan of Shunyata -- always have been, but I've tried (as in owned) several of the other major lines top-of-the-line cables: Norddost (all the Valhallas), Transparent (the Reference, NOT the mind-bogglingly expensive Opus), MIT (around 1996, not the current, which I'm sure is dazzling, too. I just can't stomach some of the prices.) I never quite felt Nordost had all the meat on the bones -- like the difference between Kate Moss and Heidi Klum, but it was hella transparent. I prefer more meat (tonal color), the way it is in real life. Shunyta is more akin to the MIT line,which, when you heard trumpets, if you knew what they sounded like in real life, you went "Yes! That's exactly the right sound." I like Transparent's MM2 line a lot. Not exactly chopped liver. I wish everyone the best, but power cord-wise, I'll take Shunyata, as I have since 2003. I haven't heard the speaker cable, although I DID have Andromeda and I have to say, it had POWER to spare. If the new line has the same power, it's going to be a top player.
I've had their speaker cable (Andromeda Bi-wire, albeit with silver spades which ultimately were too bright) and I currently use their Altair RCA ICs. My system is all tube except the IMac computer feeding a Turbo-3 USB converter. You may have a point as far as tubes imparting more of a signature.

Most all my experience has been with the Taipan Helix and Python Helix (including one or two Vx helix cables here and there). I'd say the Python exhibits the same signature on the MHDT tube DAC as other equipment by giving you more of a 3d image and separation/punch. But the tubes do such a good job with midrange presence, particularly with vocals and drums, that using the Python helix on the DAC seems to rob some of that midrange. It's more of a tone control deal with these power cords anyways, but that's one reason why people use them to begin with I guess. My system's pretty revealing, as much now with tube gear as it was with a Benchmark DAC1 and a Musical Fidelity A5 2 channel, where I used the DAC1 as the preamp. Hated that setup though, the DAC1 was too bright...

My post wasn't a condemnation of the Python Helix, as it's my all around favorite and I'm using a 20amp version on a Hydra-2 before the DAC anyways, but for some odd reason the Taipan is better on this DAC. Proves the point though that when mixing/matching cables you occasionally stumble onto something that fits absolutely perfectly (even better when it's a lower priced cable in the model line).
A while back i switched out all to the helix line,Taipan and Python.20 amp on hydra,python cd, taipan on amp.At first i wasnt impressed and thought what a waste of money.I talked to grant and he said put your python on your amp for a half an hour.Did so and switched around and lo and behold wow.The differance was remarkable,like you said separation and punch,3d imaging.He claimed that the python has more noise reduction than the taipan and he would be really surprised if i went with python on amp taipan on cd.Grant is always really helpfull,quite impressed with shunyata,There products never seem to let me down.
I am curious how the Python CX will compare to an Anaconda Helix Alpha? The used market price on the Anaconda is very tempting right now.
Gbmcleod - have you tried the Synergistic Research Tesla power cords? You might want to "Take the Tesla Challenge"...
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