Soundstage and image height, does it exist?


On another site, there is a discussion on soundstage, and there are a few people clamming, that, since there is no vertical information encoded on stereo recordings, that soundstage height does not actually exist. It is a product of our minds filling in missing information. 

Are they correct?

Please explain your position, with as much technical details as you feel needed.

 

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Well I have no idea if they are right or wrong regarding the non-vertical coded information, but what I do know is I prefer my speakers (Forte III) adjusted slightly up. If I were to keep them leveled to the floor I find myself looking down to hear the music. Sound waves seem to travel in the direction you send them, and I would imagine expanding the farther they travel. It is possible that there is no need for a vertical code only a slight speaker adjustment. And, might I dare say a little imagination or trickery of the brain. 

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@riley804 

 Poutine  has his own opinion,and he doen’t agree ( and care )with the majority of the world.

Take a look at the result.

Even Captain Kirk , used to consult Mr. Spock and his crew !

@maxwave 

 

The ´´tone ´´ of your post is slightly arrogant . That is the way I prrceived it.

well that is where you would be wrong.   

 

I dont see why a person cant have their own opinion on something and if you dont agree with the majority of the group then you are wrong.    that is the point i am trying to make and that has nothing to do with being arrogant.

 

 

 

When I sit on the floor listening to music I get a perception of sound stage height.

Plus my cat like it cause I am rubbing her belly while we listen. 

Hope that was not snotty or to technical. 

@riley804

The ´´tone ´´ of your post is slightly arrogant . That is the way I perceived  it.

@maxwave 

 

why do i need to behave differently with friends or life partner ?

so because i ask a simply question of what does it matter what others on a site say , you have a problem with it ?

@riley804 


´´ why are people so worried about what others think or say on certain topics and then have to get others opinions ? ´´

You must be a very interesting person to talk to.

I hope you behave differently with friends and life partner .

Volume can play a big part in getting the illusion of height. At least in my room. Low volume keeps everything closer to the level of the tweeter/your ears. At a moderate increase in volume every thing seems to open up. Just don't overdrive your room - sounds like crap. FWIW.

Third, I can recall listening to the astounding width and height of the sound field produced by the Harold Beveridge ESL (back in '78). 

The Pipe Dreams speaker comes to mind - a favorite of Harry Pearson! It too was a tall line source.

A narrow floor-to-ceiling line source like the Carver speaker will do this better than any speaker with multiple drivers of varying sizes (B&W, Focal, Magico, Wilson ... as examples).

Are they correct?

 

whether or not they are correct is their opinion . . you have people that think the earth is flat , so what does that tell you ?

why are people so worried about what others think or say on certain topics and then have to get others opinions ?

when you listen to your system, what do you hear / experience ?

i am definitely not an expert in this and never claimed to be.....but doesnt the room and the room treatments play a huge roll in the soundstage of a room ?