Soundstage wide and deep but not at all tall. . .


My system, like myself, is vertically challenged! This relates to another post I just made where I was considering adding a preamp. The shortcoming of my system is that vertically everything stays right at tweeter level at about 36" off the floor. The soundstage extends well beyond the speakers to the side, and depending on the recording extends 6-10" feet back. The speakers totally disappear, and imaging is quite solid. Everything else about the sound is so large and involving, but the "height restriction" reminds you that you are listening t recorded music. This seems to be the final frontier for a system that is otherwise very satisfactory.

System details: Cary 303/200 with internal volume control thru Harmonic Tech IC's direct into Spectron Musician II amplifier. Cardas Goden Cross bi-wires into Totem Forests. Recently upgrade both power cords to Fusion Audio Predators. Room is dedicated HT room with appropriate amount and type of room treatment.
jswarncke
Don't sit with your back to a wall - i.e. head within two feet - it will collapse the soundstage and completely mess up the bass. It is like listening in a cave or tunnel - sur eit may sound vague and wide but imagine using the left over cardboard roll from two paper towels and placing one to each ear...when you listen along a wall you are partially doing this Ceiling/wall/floor is like three sides of a tube.

If you can't fix this then get some rpg skyline diffusers behind your head.
Not much help but I have this same problem. I prefer to hear my music a few feet above the tweeters because it reminds me more of musicians on a stage. I have heard a few of my friends' systems (many much more modest than mine), and they all seem to originate the sound at least 1 ft above the tweeter. The only thing I can think of that could be the issue (and it most likely is), is my room. I am not able to bring my speakers out into the room and away from the sidewalls by more than a few feet.
I had this problem of lack of height for some years and it was only relieved when I ran some Acoustats, and when I drove some good dynamic cone systems loud.

A few years ago I bought some speakers with SOTA tweeters, voila heighth appeared at normal levels, but since the speakers were tallish (48") I thought it was due to height. My last (present) speakers ar runts at 40" but also have SOTA tweeters and appropriate height. My conclusion is that the quality of the tweeters resolution can make a large contribution.

Also, FWIW, IMHO, if you are getting a lot of soundstage width, on the plane of the speakers, outside of the speakers, you are either playing recordings with a lot of out of phase information encoded, or you have something wrong with your set up. In a 2 channel system playing stereo recordings w/out recorded phase manipulation, all of the information on the plane of the speakers should be contained w/in the space between the speakers. If there is a sense of airiness and a huge 'soundstage' beyond the speakers laterally it is more likely than not the result of room/set up issues. Lots of folks like that sound but it can reduce your ability to get holographic (truely 3 dimensional) soundstaging.

Oh, FWIW re electronics being a consideration, I had no real low volume height with some pretty good stuff and I now get it with some pretty average stuff. Not to say that resolution in the electronics doesn't make a difference, just that it is not the first place I would look for a solution.