Speaker Placement - When it's perfect!


So many audiophiles have commented that when your room treatment is completed, your electronics set up and tweaked and most importantly, your speakers are set up in your listening space correctly that you'll know it because everything just sounds so "right" and natural.  I just accomplished that feat in the last two weeks.  I say two weeks because I needed to play a wide variety of recordings to be sure that I'm there.  It is so great to have finally hit just the right set up.

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that it has taken me well over a year of experimentation to get to this point.  It's not that other placements yielded poor quality sound its just that now everything sounds like a live event (as much as any of our systems can).

I would really appreciate hearing about your journey to the promised land of audiophile/music lover bliss.  How long did it take, what were the most difficult aspects of the journey?  And if you have yet to get there, what do  you think is the "brick in your wall"?
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Every room is different with different challenges to overcome acoustically.

 I finally had to have Jim Smith come out and voice my room.  Move a lot around, took 7 hours but the difference was beyond words.  
Very emotional experience listening in that room today...
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I know this thought is not unique to me as many A'Goners have mentioned this on other threads.  I've been in this listening room for 25+ years.  Regardless of all the locations I try for my speakers, they end up in pretty much the same spot.  That may, in part, be because I have only had Vandersteen's in that room.  In any event, where the Treo CT's are now seems to be the place I always end up regardless of speaker model.🤔
Some speakers are more demanding than others.

I recall setting up some Spica Angelus - they were capable of pin point localization but needed to be positioned exactly right to get that.  Helps to have someone to help you - if you can just sit there while the helper moves the speakers closer or further apart, or toes them a bit, it is easier to compare the sound in your own mind.

My current main speakers (Wilson Maxx 2) have advantages and disadvantages. Each one weighs over 400 lbs so you have them on casters to even be able to move them. We used a laser range finder to be sure of distances to listener and moved them back and forth to zero them in. They have the advantage of having the mid and treble drivers in a movable module that you can precisely angle according to head height and distance from speaker.  Still, it takes awhile to set them up.

Right now I am doing battle with a pair of original Martin Logan CLS - slight changes in distance apart and toe can make or collapse the soundstage, plus there is the variable of amount of tilt, and height off the floor (customs stands are either unsightly or impossible to find).

It is worth all the trouble once you get the zeroed in, though.

@wspohn  Wow.  The Spica Angelus.  Haven't thought about that speaker for a long time.  That was, to me, one of the most unique looking speakers in its time.  I never had the pleasure of hearing music through them.

Agree with you about the differing demands of various speaker designs/sizes.  It is a long way from the Angelus to the Maxx 2!