Speakers "Disappearing"


I have read a lot about speakers "disappearing" so that one can't tell from where the sound is emanating. But, what about all the stereo tunes where the recordiing engineer intentionally pans the music to come from one side or the other? Can the speakers be made to "disappear" in that situation? Or, is it just the nature of the particular recording?
rlb61
I have a pair of Martin/Logan SL-3's and first off have to bring them well out from the rear wall as the actually project backwards quite a bit and much ofof the audio experience will be lost totally.  Living in a small one bedroom apartment I find near field listening to offer the best results.  First offI am able to get fantastic results playing at lower volume settings than typically required.  Plus I can close my eyes and the whole audio experience I find to be much fuller and better than otherwise.  The bass response I so much better close up.  It greatly lessens the need for much of the tweaks required for a typical audio system when floor, ceiling and wall reflections-all those things requiring tweeks unnecessary.  Obviously it makes for a smaller area for the listener.  It is not a good system for multible listeners-more for a single, or possibly two listeners at a time.  But how much better the overall audio experience becomes.  Plus living in an apartment, not having to play my system as loud as would otherwise be required helps with the neighbors.  Anyway, I find that a close listening experience-near field listening is much better, as well as easier to set up as the alternative.  I have read that David Wilson enjoys near field listening in his own home audio system.  If it means setting up my system to entirely take over my living room so be it.  In other words, my living room is mostly taken ovr by a relatively large audio system. Obviously I am a single man.  Too bad there are not more female audiophiles.  I also think of Art Dudley whose wife allows him to take over an entire large room of his home for his own audio system.  If there were more true audiophiles around who understand their priorities.
Keep in mind that even with the best speakers, placement, and recording, the speakers will "disappear" only in a listening sweet spot likely not to envelop more than 1-3 listening positions.

I had a pair of Martin Logans for a while.  They imaged very well when sitting with my head still, back straight, in one place on my couch.  If I moved or stood up, it sounded like a bag was put over my head.  

Since I could not strap myself in that position, I traded them for a pair of Dynaudio speakers that had a beautiful tone and could withstand severe volumes.  Trade-offs!
How do you find them once they disappear, and where do they go? I certainly don't want to get up in the middle of the night and trip over a speaker that reappears...

With proper setup and good components, speakers and a good recording you should be able to get a wall of great sound. With Maggie's I get a huge wall of sound that is so life like and utterly amazing.

Cheers

Frequently your speakers will disappear when you leave your doors unlocked.

Now that I got that out of my system, I have a very asymmetrical room and the width of my soundstage was very variable with different recordings. My system performed well with the Chesky Ultimate Demonstration Disc Vol. 2 (love that deep bass track); but not every disc or LP sounded as good. On a whim I ordered The IsoTek Ultimate System Set-Up Disc, from Music Direct if I recall. This is the only disc I’ve found that has a series of tracks that first guide one to get the channels balanced, then optimize the width of the soundstage, then the depth, then the three dimensional realism. It made a big difference in my system in my room, not just refining my speaker and listening chair replacement; but rearranging furniture and objects in the room.

Disclaimer: not in anyway affiliated. I have posted this in other threads as relevant. If you've read it before, bear with me.