Dear Johnnyb53: I don't want that you " buy " nothing I said it. This another example: Velodyne worked in the past and designed a pair of normal speakers that they marketed for no more than two years but fail to really introduce in the speaker's market and everyone knew Velodyne as a good subwoofer manufacturer.
Believe me, is more easy to hire J.Curl or other electronics designers that a top subwoofer designer: because there is not!.
Velodyne is IMHO absolutely superior to JL or REL and maybe (I because I don't hear it yet ) to SF too.
Every sub out there makes: boom boom, my point is not that but that that boom boom can be accurate and with the lowest distortion you can achieve and these two targets are the ones that makes the difference.
Now, you have to be prepared to discern and be aware about those differences and you know what: it is not an easy task to discern on that bass frequency range, you need to be trained if not almost everything will be for you: boom boom.
Specs on subs are really important because we need to know the sub behavior under some circumstances and when we are talink of Velodyne or other top sub as the ones named here we are talking not on a " new kid on the block " but we are talking of top knowledge with patents in the product design that speaks for it self.
The subjecvt here when talking about subs is what are you looking for: boom booommm or quality level performance in your system through improving the main speakers own performance along the best you can get from subs works.
Rel, SF or JL has nothing to control the woofer behavior but the inside amps that are not enough to achieve 0.5% on THD, this is vital/crucial when you are speaking about quality.
To know if those better numbers means something you have to have first hand experiences between all those different subs, there is no other way and remember that we are not in the 70's, things already improve about and about the importance of several numbers out there in each audio link in each one audio system chain.
Of course that if you are of the people that only say: " I like it " " I like what I heard " then we have nothing to talk because you really don't care on what you are hearing and my self always care on what I'm hearing.
Johnny, I don't care about Velodyne. I take it as an example not because I own it but only to exemply the importance to inform on subs before any choice could make it.
Subs as a whole is a " new product " " a new kid in the/b " where exist a lot of misunderstanding and where we have to take care about.
Good that you already know what I posted. What I can't understand is that if you already have all the knowledge level about why disagree with no real and precise arguments.
All what I posted not came from reading here or by my imagination but by experiences a lot of experiences in different audio systems.
Don't " buy " nothing but at least give us your proved arguments. I don't care whom has reason but I like to learn and and want it because certainly could be I can be wrong and need to re-set.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Believe me, is more easy to hire J.Curl or other electronics designers that a top subwoofer designer: because there is not!.
Velodyne is IMHO absolutely superior to JL or REL and maybe (I because I don't hear it yet ) to SF too.
Every sub out there makes: boom boom, my point is not that but that that boom boom can be accurate and with the lowest distortion you can achieve and these two targets are the ones that makes the difference.
Now, you have to be prepared to discern and be aware about those differences and you know what: it is not an easy task to discern on that bass frequency range, you need to be trained if not almost everything will be for you: boom boom.
Specs on subs are really important because we need to know the sub behavior under some circumstances and when we are talink of Velodyne or other top sub as the ones named here we are talking not on a " new kid on the block " but we are talking of top knowledge with patents in the product design that speaks for it self.
The subjecvt here when talking about subs is what are you looking for: boom booommm or quality level performance in your system through improving the main speakers own performance along the best you can get from subs works.
Rel, SF or JL has nothing to control the woofer behavior but the inside amps that are not enough to achieve 0.5% on THD, this is vital/crucial when you are speaking about quality.
To know if those better numbers means something you have to have first hand experiences between all those different subs, there is no other way and remember that we are not in the 70's, things already improve about and about the importance of several numbers out there in each audio link in each one audio system chain.
Of course that if you are of the people that only say: " I like it " " I like what I heard " then we have nothing to talk because you really don't care on what you are hearing and my self always care on what I'm hearing.
Johnny, I don't care about Velodyne. I take it as an example not because I own it but only to exemply the importance to inform on subs before any choice could make it.
Subs as a whole is a " new product " " a new kid in the/b " where exist a lot of misunderstanding and where we have to take care about.
Good that you already know what I posted. What I can't understand is that if you already have all the knowledge level about why disagree with no real and precise arguments.
All what I posted not came from reading here or by my imagination but by experiences a lot of experiences in different audio systems.
Don't " buy " nothing but at least give us your proved arguments. I don't care whom has reason but I like to learn and and want it because certainly could be I can be wrong and need to re-set.
Regards and enjoy the music,
R.