@ Almarg, Hi, I never said that preamp would not work with my amp, I'm saying a preamp that has much lower output will play lower levels of volume that I like, most source I use are 2.5 volts output to 5 volts output, you said, times that by 5, thats to much volume, I like to turn the volume control to full setting and still have a little head room to the amps power with no distortions or clipping, I have understood the both of you fully weeks ago!, I believe I was not understood, I do not want a preamp that cannot use all the volume control, LOl!, I enjoy music at times having a few to drink, maybe forget the volume, turn it up to full on the volume cotrol may propose problems for me, LOl!, I do thank you for all your help, and I have enjoyed talking with you and Ralph, maybe I may call Ralph after the new year, I find the both of you very interesting, Happy new year to the both of you gentleman.