Keil: As the portable audio marketplace becomes more sophisticated, I'm sure we'll see more devices like the one you described. An interesting dilemma with the transition from headphone-listening to--what should we call it?-- in-room listening is that in order to equal the transparency and dynamics of good 'phones and amp, one has to spend a LOT of money on speakers/amps/source. How well we manage that crossover of enthusiasts may well determine the fate of what we now think of as high-end audio.
It's kind of like going from motorcycles to cars: in order to get the explosive acceleration and handling dynamics of a $15,000 super-bike, you have to spend, what? $100,000 in a car? Obviously, a bike is not suitable for all conditions (unless you are wildly suicidal), and in my mind, neither is listening with headphones. Undoubtedly there are parties with dozens of people be-bopping inside their heads while wearing cans--but the idea creeps me out.
End of THAT rant.
Jay: Back in the dawn of time, say the 1980's, when I would hear a popular song being used/abused in a commercial, I would say(and WAY too often to anyone who was around me), "it's a systematic debasement of our musical heritage". I believed it then, and I believe it now...but I no longer bother to say it.
Why? Because popular songs old and new are used that way so often these days that that portentious, pretentious phrase would be coming off my lips on a continuous basis,like Om Mane Padme Om, and I'd end up in a padded room next to Ted Kaczynski. Whether we like it or not, modern life has a continuous soundtrack, and like any wide-bandwidth media requiring an endless supply of content, that soundtrack tends to be cliched and mindless.
I really think that silence is needed in order to appreciate music. If there's never any silence in the world or in our heads.... it's worrisome. To me, anyway.
Mech: good ideas, but Eminent Technology-designed flat speakers have been available for computer systems for years, under the Typhoon brand, I think. There may even be ET-branded ones.
So far there are only a few Apple-approved products in the high end (from Peachtree and Manley, maybe a few others), but I'm sure the number will increase. I've used wonderful small speakers whose styling fits the Apple line perfectly, but while folks seem okay spending $1500 for a big Cinema monitor, the same price for speakers is greeted with disbelief. Even from Apple's top audio guy.
But: things could change.
Rdav: No need to apologize; we're all newbies at SOMETHING, every day of our lives. If we're not, we ain't livin' right.
Yes, costs of almost everything have skyrocketed while real wages have flat-lined. I've read so many depressing stats lately that they all run together, but I believe the average cost of a college education has gone up about 25% in the last decade, while wages have increased only 1-2%.
As you point out, discretionary income has dropped dramatically, restricting purchases of almost anything beyond food, clothing and (one hopes) soap. Curiously, the bite has mostly come out of the middle of the market: super-value low-end products are doing well, and very expensive goods with high perceived-value are doing well. It means people are still willing to pay big bucks, but not for throw-away goods.
I think that's good, and indicates opportunities for solid products. Pricey goods in sectors where standards change daily (think home theater processors) might have problems. And yes, there while be a lot of retooling to adapt products to the new marketplace. Again, I think that's good. A static industry is a dead industry.
Keil, again: No arguments from me.
Mech, again: "Spartan monastic anhedonic"? Didn't they used to share bills with Aztec Camera??
Seriously, that's not a phrase one reads every day, especially when talkin' 'bout Hi-Fi. Thanks for that wake-up call to my synapses!
I think there will continue to be a market for quality audio gear; it might just be a little less big and splashy than what we're used to. I can't say that's necessarily a bad thing.
If you look at American cars that preceded the Great Depression, you'll see lots of chrome and gaudy colors. Following 1929, cars became more sober and subdued, less chrome, more muted colors. Post-WWII, we were back to day-glow colors with enough chrome to pollute all of New Jersey.
Things go in cycles. I think we'll survive, and so will music.
Thank you all for your stimulating (and lengthy!) comments. I apologize for my unusually lengthy comments, but I thought many good points were made which needed to be addressed.
Keep 'em comin', kids!
It's kind of like going from motorcycles to cars: in order to get the explosive acceleration and handling dynamics of a $15,000 super-bike, you have to spend, what? $100,000 in a car? Obviously, a bike is not suitable for all conditions (unless you are wildly suicidal), and in my mind, neither is listening with headphones. Undoubtedly there are parties with dozens of people be-bopping inside their heads while wearing cans--but the idea creeps me out.
End of THAT rant.
Jay: Back in the dawn of time, say the 1980's, when I would hear a popular song being used/abused in a commercial, I would say(and WAY too often to anyone who was around me), "it's a systematic debasement of our musical heritage". I believed it then, and I believe it now...but I no longer bother to say it.
Why? Because popular songs old and new are used that way so often these days that that portentious, pretentious phrase would be coming off my lips on a continuous basis,like Om Mane Padme Om, and I'd end up in a padded room next to Ted Kaczynski. Whether we like it or not, modern life has a continuous soundtrack, and like any wide-bandwidth media requiring an endless supply of content, that soundtrack tends to be cliched and mindless.
I really think that silence is needed in order to appreciate music. If there's never any silence in the world or in our heads.... it's worrisome. To me, anyway.
Mech: good ideas, but Eminent Technology-designed flat speakers have been available for computer systems for years, under the Typhoon brand, I think. There may even be ET-branded ones.
So far there are only a few Apple-approved products in the high end (from Peachtree and Manley, maybe a few others), but I'm sure the number will increase. I've used wonderful small speakers whose styling fits the Apple line perfectly, but while folks seem okay spending $1500 for a big Cinema monitor, the same price for speakers is greeted with disbelief. Even from Apple's top audio guy.
But: things could change.
Rdav: No need to apologize; we're all newbies at SOMETHING, every day of our lives. If we're not, we ain't livin' right.
Yes, costs of almost everything have skyrocketed while real wages have flat-lined. I've read so many depressing stats lately that they all run together, but I believe the average cost of a college education has gone up about 25% in the last decade, while wages have increased only 1-2%.
As you point out, discretionary income has dropped dramatically, restricting purchases of almost anything beyond food, clothing and (one hopes) soap. Curiously, the bite has mostly come out of the middle of the market: super-value low-end products are doing well, and very expensive goods with high perceived-value are doing well. It means people are still willing to pay big bucks, but not for throw-away goods.
I think that's good, and indicates opportunities for solid products. Pricey goods in sectors where standards change daily (think home theater processors) might have problems. And yes, there while be a lot of retooling to adapt products to the new marketplace. Again, I think that's good. A static industry is a dead industry.
Keil, again: No arguments from me.
Mech, again: "Spartan monastic anhedonic"? Didn't they used to share bills with Aztec Camera??
Seriously, that's not a phrase one reads every day, especially when talkin' 'bout Hi-Fi. Thanks for that wake-up call to my synapses!
I think there will continue to be a market for quality audio gear; it might just be a little less big and splashy than what we're used to. I can't say that's necessarily a bad thing.
If you look at American cars that preceded the Great Depression, you'll see lots of chrome and gaudy colors. Following 1929, cars became more sober and subdued, less chrome, more muted colors. Post-WWII, we were back to day-glow colors with enough chrome to pollute all of New Jersey.
Things go in cycles. I think we'll survive, and so will music.
Thank you all for your stimulating (and lengthy!) comments. I apologize for my unusually lengthy comments, but I thought many good points were made which needed to be addressed.
Keep 'em comin', kids!