The Palladian-A step beyond

richardkrebs
12-05-2016 7:31pm
Ideally the amplitude should be the same regardless of cartridge family.

That statement is not correct.
Why would you expect a low compliance low output 0.1mv mc cartridge with a tiny coil attached to the cantilever to have the same amplitude as a high compliance high output output 5mv MM cartridge with a hunk of magnet attached to the cantilever when navigating a record groove. 

Because if the movement of the cantilever (at the stylus end) is not the same, then the stylus is not following the groove or the cartridge body is moving in anti phase  Both very bad things indeed. 

Yeah, you can go into groove wall deflection due to higher forces with a low compliance cart and other esoteric reasons, but "ideally" the movement will be the same in a properly set up system.  

Dear @dover :  """  Halcro you have suggested before that effective mass does not have an impact before but you are wrong...""""

obviously totally wrong but is not his culprit, things are that he just can't hear it: it's now aware of it. This is the problem with this gentleman is that unfortunatelly is a self negation/deny for him and just is not willing to change, willing to learn.

Dover, what you said about you and every single true audiophile learned when we studied  audio in the very first steps: kindergarden.

Some of us are way sticky to " something " and we can't do nothing to be unglued.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Dear @dover : You posted to richardkrebs:   """  That statement is not correct... """

and he posted:  """  Because if the movement of the cantilever (at the stylus end) is not the same, then the stylus is not following the groove..."""

things are that never is the same because the stylus cartridge follows the grooves in tiny different ways. 

Compliance, cartridge cantilever/stylus effective mass and output are different as is each cartridge tracking abilities, amplitude can't be exactly the same.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Raul
yes, yes of course. I was not and Halcro was not talking about individual carts arms
We were talking about different families of carts, MM and MC

Further, I did not use the word "Exactly"

cheers