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Thiel Owners

Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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jafant OP
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Thank You- guys for providing  this insightful information that can benefit

the rest of us. I like reading about potential mods and upgrades to our speakers' cross-over networks. Very cool indeed.

Happy Listening!

tmsrdg
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Tom,

By 
" The improvements relate to dielectric absorption and are therefore in the time domain and result in slight smear and sonic residue. "
are you really saying that these improvements result in smear?  Or was that just a typo?

Thanks!
 

beetlemania
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Thanks for the post, Tom
I'm very excited to try cap upgrades. Without further information, I'll probably try the latest Clarity caps that will fit in the 2.4 enclosure (which I have yet to open). Probably try some Cardas solder. Probably be weeks or months before I have time to do this,
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tomthiel
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Sorry for the sloppy writing. I meant that the problems of inferior caps cause those distortions which are mitigated and clarified by more nearly perfect capacitors. 
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beetlemania
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@dgarretson

Owners of standard CS2.4 speakers may be interested to know that the only internal difference that makes a 2.4SE is the use of ClarityCap SA film capacitors. DIYers can make this upgrade or better by substituting the more recently introduced ESA range.



. I don't have a schematic, but during that time Thiel was purchasing 14uf and 28uf values. They may have been bypassing these with 1uf polystyrene caps. You should be able to confirm this by inspecting the crossover.

Since then we have surpassed SA by two generations-- ESA and now CSA. For that application I suggest CSA/250V or, space permitting, our top CMR/400V model.


You should inspect the board to be sure. The configuration is likely 14uf in parallel with 1uf(=15uf) and 28uf in parallel with 1uf(=29uf). If this is the case, then you could (1) replace the 14uf and 28uf values and leave the stock 1uf polystryrene caps in place, or (2) replace both the high values and the paralleled 1uf caps with 15uf and 29uf.

It is advisable to look carefully at the circuit before ordering anything.

 Looking at Partsconnexion and Madisound, I don't see these values from Clarity (or Mundorf), especially as a close-up of the CS2.3SE crossover indicates 630 V. Are Thiel's values a special order?
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