Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Andy - Unaskedfor advice, given in good faith: I would find it nearly impossible and at least thoroughly frustrating to design a first-order, phase coherent loudspeaker. It took us decades to develop and improve drivers to eventually cover 7 octaves with good enough behavior so that the long tails on the crosspoints would blend properly without over-excursing, resonating, burning out and otherwise misbehaving. The early custom drivers were developed with Vifa, who is no longer in business. Then we developed and made in-house, which are likewise unavailable. Since first-order xo is generally considered unfeasible, I don't know that suitable drivers are out there to be bought. 

I suggest you consider other options. A sweet alternative is the second-order crossover which manages phase integrity within a broader window, but to my ear does the job quite musically. Lots of high-end companies, as the lovely Thiel 02, take that rout.
Please keep us posted on your progress, whatever you do.
This information crossed my radar earlier today. ARC will be offering a SE upgrade for their CD6 and CD9 cd players starting now. A CD6SE offered at $10K and CD9SE at $15K respectively. For that kind of price increase it would have been good of Audio Research to include SACD playback. The CD9 has been my long-standing reference cd spinner during auditions.  A very fine player with a killer DAC for computer -based Audio applications.  Happy Listening!

tomthiel

 

Thank You for providing us with another Thiel history marker. The hard work developing a driver that covers all 7 Octaves certainly paid off well. Another brilliant design by Jim and company. Hope you are well this day and gaining ground on the XO project.


Happy Listening!

Hi Guys - I’m excited to report that I’ve become a card-carrying member of the CS2.4-owners’ club. Picked up a nice pair a few weeks ago (2006 production in Cherry finish) and have been doing some serious listening and comparing them to my 21-year-old CS3.6s.
I’d previously reported that my 3.6s need work, but they’re still listenable and I think I’m able to "listen-through" the problems since I’m so familiar with them.
This is the first time I’ve had two sets of speakers at the same time and I’m liking it. After listening to both models, I’ve come to some conclusions. I know this isn’t news to those who’ve owned and already compared both models, and I know a lot has already been said in this forum about these comparisons, but I’ thought I’d add a little of my own perspective after my admittedly short time spent comparing both models.
Bottom line for me: Both models share obvious Thiel strengths but each excels in a different way, so deciding on which to keep will be tough. To my ears, the 2.4s provide better definition and superior imaging. They’re tighter in the bottom end and I hear small details with the 2.4s that are difficult to hear on the 3.6s. If I switch to the 3.6s after listening to the same song on the 2.4s, I can then hear the details that the 2.4s more easily reveal, but those details pop out on the newer model and the placement of individual instruments and voices is more pinpoint on the 2.4s.
On probably 90 percent of music, the 2.4s are satisfying and a real pleasure listening to. But there’s a big caveat: the lack of that bottom 1/2 octave on the 2.4s may be a deal breaker for me. Listening to vocals, jazz, Blues on the 2.4s is just sooo good, but...listening to John Rutter’s Requiem (Reference Recordings) on the 2.4s is just disappointing. Switching back to the 3.6s, and getting that last 1/2 octave of bass, the feeling of those low organ pipes and sense of space that the lower half-octave brings is just so superior on the 3.6s. The larger speakers have a sense of ease that the 2.4s just do not provide on that type of music.
So - since I don’t want to do subs, I’m torn between two speakers.
I was somewhat disappointed to learn that Tom T. is working on crossover updates on other models prior to starting work on the 3.6s; I think crossover updates on the 3.6s have the potential to increase the resolution and be really significant on this older model, but it seems like it will be quite some time before the updated crossovers are available.
I’m thinking of updating the caps on my 2.4s (per Rob G.) to get them sounding their best (short of rebuilding the whole crossovers) --and then enjoy those until the update for the 3.6s is available.
So I think I have a plan to go forward - but am still anxiously awaiting that 3.6 crossover update!
Best ...