Thiel Owners

Quick question (and forgive me if this has been asked and answered before) - when measuring the distance between the 3.7 (or 2.7) and the listening position, do you measure from the tweeter/midrange or the woofer?  I assume that it’s the tweeter, but given the slope of the speakers the measurement can change depending on the focal point.

Thanks,

David

Hello all!

Haven't posted in a while, but happy to see the "usual suspects" as well as some new posters contributing to this great thread...I hope everyone is safe and well.

Tonight, looking to listen to something on the more mellow side, I decided to revisit David Gray's "White Ladder" album (streamed from Tidal, then from my own CD ripped to my Bluesound Vault).  While Gray's music can be lumped into the "Mom Rock/Pop" category, I always felt his song writing and musicality were way better than other performers (i.e. singers) of the genre.  Listening to this album tonight, I couldn't help but feel that I was listening to something that should be considered as reference-quality material.

For whatever reason, I never realized how ell recorded this album is:  the backgrounds are dead quiet, which really helps heighten the moody tone of the songs as well as allow Gray's vocals to be presented with some real air to them.  The musical performance is excellent as well...piano being Gray's primary instrument, his playing shines here as well as multi-layered strings and percussion giving you a sense of how complex the music is, yet presented in such an easy, soothing way.  But, most of all, many of the tracks on "White Ladder" have electronic components to them, primarily drum/beat machines.  This is what surprised and captivated me the most...low, deep bass with real slam and snap to the timing.  My 3.5's conveyed this with astonishing authority...bass that could be felt and heard, but never without a sense of musicality.

Again, I don't know exactly why this album, which I have always loved and have known well, sounded so different (in a very good way!) to me tonight.  I chalk it up to finally having that second D240 MKII ARC amp in my system and running them bridged-mono...480 watts/channel is a lot of watts.  But more importantly, I guess I'm just in a very comfortable place where the music just sounds so good coming out of my system, no matter what I select to play.  

Anyway...if you haven't heard the album, I recommend giving it a listen.  And if you have, I suggest listening to it again with an ear to its musicality and complexity.  You may be pleasantly surprised to find a new reference-quality recording! 

Thanks for reading and contributing to this forum...I truly learn so much from you all.  Again, I hope you and yours are all staying safe and doing well...Take care!

Arvin

dhoff01
Good to see you again.  I suspect that each of us could measure from a different part of the loudspeaker. Personally, I measure from the front of the base (bottom cabinet) where the Thiel logo is located.Using this method, I have never had an issue considering our beloved speakers offer pin-point imaging.  Keep us posted as you test your own preference.
Happy Listening!

arvincastro
You ears do  not deceive. White Ladder is a well-produced recording by David Gray.  This year the album celebrates a 20th anniversary.Enjoy the Music!
Happy Listening!

Jafant,

I currently measure the same way you do.  From my ear(s), I measure just over 8 feet from where the base of the speaker is.  Speakers are also 8 feet apart (measured from the center of each speaker) and 2’ 6” from the back walls (measured from the closest point on the rear of the speaker, which is near the top).  After a lot of trial and error, I find that placing the speakers on the long wall provides the best results for me, so while I sacrifice some in terms of distance from the back wall, I enjoy 5’ of distance from each side wall (measured from the tweeter).  But since my room measures at 20x15, I don’t have much wiggle room in terms of distance from the wall behind the listening position and the distance behind the speakers.  I try to keep my ears at least 3 feet from the wall behind me, which I think makes a bigger difference than the distance behind the speakers. 

Long winded way of saying I’m curious if everyone measures the same way.  Do you measure from the outside of the cabinet, from the tweeter, from the center line, or a mix (like me) depending on which wall/speaker you’re looking at?  I’d love to hear Tom Thiel’s thoughts too..

Thanks,

David